It feels like this is very intense here compared to other social media services/protocols.
Why is that?
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across lemmy??? I would say its the opposite with strong pushes one way from some and another by others and even some downright central and nuanced.
No, you fight like a cow.
Mute lemmygrad, hexbear, .ml and maybe blahaj and see if you still feel the same afterwards.
I think it’s moderation. If you have a differing opinion from the mainstream (as in what the moderation team thinks), you’ll get banned from the current community and any other community that mod is moderating. It’s absolutely insane.
That quite obviously leads to a chilling effect where people aren’t willing to discuss anything controversial freely, like their political stance, unless of course it’s the one mods have.
I like piefed and Lemmy, but this is by far the worst place for any political discussion
That has not been my experience. There are a number of times I’ve had fundamental differences with the zeitgeist and I’ve been largely down voted before, but never banned. I don’t think I’ve ever even had a comment removed, and some of them have been pretty borderline.
Maybe it’s due to other issues besides your opinion? Idk. Hope you find communities that fit you.
Looking at your post history, I’m just seeing that the down votes look average to me.
If that’s what you’re talking about, I wouldn’t take down votes personally.
Often what people are down voting is bad news, not necessarily fake news or something they disagree with.
If that’s not what you’re talking about, then never mind.
I started a thread about lemvotes some time back.
Several people went to look up their own post histories, and one guy offered the most unique insight.
Apparently in this Lemmy client on his phone, he was clicking a button to make posts ‘go away’ after he read them.
Well after looking up his own vote history, this guy realized he’s been downvoting everything he reads, all the time. That was not a ‘go away’ button.
After reading this guy’s confused bullshit with the voting buttons, I came to realize that there are innumerable reasons for why people vote, and it may not at all be what you think.true, but let’s be honest most downvotes are just people disliking what you wrote.
Could just be a consequence of a less ideologically diverse user base to start with.
I’m so upset about (privacy, reddit, corporatism, etc, etc) that I’m prepared to leave my large online social networks for a smaller space on principle is probably a bit of an outlier position to take.
Not that it’s wrong, but it’s probably something we all agree on. Something out there is so fucked up we refuse to be a part of it on principle, even if we don’t fully agree on what that is.
it’s also an outlier position fueled by belief, and people tend to self-select to be around others who believe as they do, and punish those who don’t.
it’s one thing to be concern about privacy, it’s another to browbeat anyone who doesn’t have a pihole server and selfhosts all their media content as being ‘fools’. i don’t use linux other than at my job, and according to lemmy techies I’m a heretic.
I don’t have an answer for you, OP. I will say that Lemmy is the angriest social media platform I have ever been on. I have never seen so many angry people who will actually stalk people (across mulitple posts) they disagree with, as I have seen on Lemmy. I’ve seen people here advocate for murder and torture of people and/or politicians they don’t agree with. It’s crazy!
Just want to say I am dealing with this too. I had one guy yesterday reply to 10 separate posts of mine because of one thing I said in one thread they didn’t like. I blocked them, but it is insane behavior.
These replies were no legit either, they were just slinging insults and character assassination and telling me how stupid and evil I was for saying something they disagreed with.
It’s recent for me, this kind of nonsense has only been happening recently. a year ago it never did.
Yep, and what sucks, is that even tho you blocked them, they can still see all of your posts, and respond to them with the same attacks, but you won’t see it. Everyone else will. Lemmy is getting more and more toxic.
Oh, spend time on Reddit.
I was there almost 15 years and it is mind-meltingly toxic compared to lemmy.
Now I’m on the lemmy.zip instance and tend to lean towards more tech ended stuff, so maybe that’s the difference…
This site is light-years nicer than Reddit’s been since about 2018.
I think it’s the lack of rage-bots here, that’s the ticket…
My experience of reddit wasn’t toxic until '22 or so. The first ten years I used it was mostly chill and fun, with the occasionally dramatic event that I had no personal stake in. I mostly was in my local city subreddit and hobby subreddits and a few reading ones.
But around '22 or so, for me at least, i started getting reported and banned regularly for sexism, racism, and violence. i think because I am not ‘woke’ and the overton window shifted to the point where my views were considered evil or something.
But since I’m an economic progressive and not a social engineering erase gender progressive, I’m a bad person now or something. I also committed the sin of having an outdoor cat and pointing out racial/sexist attacks on my local mayor.
And FWIW this type of crazy has bled over into the real world for me. Extremist rhetoric invaded several activity groups I enjoy IRL. Like, I don’t want to go to a book club and get lectured how I am evil for not buying/ the ‘right’ books, esp when I take most of my books from the library and most of the stuff I read is 100+ years old.
