A US judge on Monday apologized to the man accused of attempting to assassinate Donald Trump for the “legally deficient” treatment he has faced in a Washington DC, jail, including being placed on suicide watch, separated from other inmates and denied a Bible.
The US magistrate judge Zia Faruqui said he was disturbed by the conditions for Cole Allen, who allegedly fired a shotgun during a foiled attack on Trump and senior officials in his administration at a 25 April press gala. The judge said the conditions were inappropriate for a person with no criminal history.
“Whatever you’ve been through, I apologize,” Faruqui said during a court hearing.
Hah! This guy is going to walk on some technicality because the DoJ is so profoundly, virtuosically incompetent.
picking a shotgun for an assassination is about as effective as bringing a super soaker. what a joke.
Shorgun with buckshot
Yesterday I went to the Fox news website to see their version of top news. It was this story, that a judge would apologize to someone who tried to shoot our “dear” leader.
Disinformation bubbles (Fox, OAN, Rogan, etc) and lack of critical thinking/media literacy is what got us here. Trump just pressed the accelerator but is not the driver
Unironically Rogan is actually on my “I hope they die” list. Motherfucker platforms so many conspiracy pissants which grants them so much false credibility. Hope his conspiracy nonsense has rotted the safety side of his brain and he tossed out his C02 detectors.
I hope Rogan one day earns a Herman Cain Award, or some similar Darwin Award subspecies
So, I tried to post it earlier, but couldn’t figure out how to get the video out from behind the paywall.
Basically, WaPo got high resolution versions of the security cam footage.
… I don’t think this dude fired a single shot.
I think that the Secret Service guy who was shot, was shot by another security guard.
Basically:
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XWhere the arrow is the dude running through the metal detector, O is SS dude who was shot, X is other guard.
As the dude is running between the two, X fires off at least 3 shots, tracking running dude.
O appears to become injured very soon after X fires one of those shots, where that shot is fired while X is basically pointing at O.
But you never see a muzzle flash from the shotgun.
You do see them from X’s pistol though.
Also, in the audio of the event, everything I’ve seen and heard… all the shots sound similar.
And these shots all would have occured in the same space, the same hallway.
A shotgun blast does not sound like a pistol shot, its… significantly louder, has a different kind of waveform.
What is even more insane is that apparently the assailant was never even hit.
… So the only actual injury in all of this was friendly fire.
Like yeah its still insane to sprint through that with a shotgun… but nobody even hit the dude?
Fucking clownshow security.
Also, it would be immensely simple to figure out what actually shot the SS dude O.
His bulletproof vest caught the shot, preventing him from being more seriously injured.
So… if it caught a bunch of buckshot… it was the shotgun.
If it caught a 9mm… it was friendly fire.
Word is that they found a shotgun pellet in the guys vest, indicating the shotgun was fired.
HOWEVER…
The credibility of literally EVERYBODY in this administration is non-existent, so I don’t believe a single word they say about ANYTHING. Whatever evidence they claim to have means nothing to me. It is compromised simply by being in their possession. If I were a juror, I would have doubt from the outset, and would never vote to convict him (or Luigi), based on the complete lack of credibility of the plaintiff bringing the case.
Yeah it was really obviously friendly fire, dunno if he shot after that recording or not though
Don’t worry, I’m sure we will find out the truth with Kash ‘Bug-eyes’ Patel on the job.
Dude looks like a terrified Gowron.
Except that he will never know glory, nor honor.
The security setup looks like the scene from the film, Ronin, where De Niro’s character outs Sean Bean’s character as a idiot who doesn’t know what he’s doing.
I would not at all put it past this admin to have some guys that saw that movie, and just said ‘lets do that’.
The… the guy here, the assailaint… like we’re all at the point now that we can admit MKUltra is real and still happening (under some other name) and the FBI essentially catfishes/gaslights/entraps people into carrying out violent attacks, has been doing that for decades, right?
This scenario is both very stupid and also very fishy.
I would not at all put it past this admin to have some guys that saw that movie, and just said ‘lets do that’.
Some guy? You mean Trump? His entire worldview seems to come from movies and TV. Just the other day he was claiming that 86 is a mob term meaning “Kill him,” then he realized he was saying that he knew mob guys, and he quickly pivoted to “…in the MOVIES, they say that.”
What a fucking putz, this fucking guy.
I will say, mixing different conspiracies into a melting pot of nonsense doesn’t help.
MKUltra was real, it was run by Sidney Gottlieb, who was insane and sadistic. Most of it seems to have been just do shit for kicks and giggles. It was seriously fucked up and there was almost zero oversight. The stated goals were never reached, because the stated goals ignored reality. A lot of lives were destroyed, mostly because the agents involved thought it would be funny. Most of the “work” was shredded to avoid accountability.
FBI entrapment is real, but is different again, it’s also extremely fucked up with little oversight. The stated goals are ignored in favor of press releases and ruining people’s lives. Racism plays a big role.
The Correspondents Dinner was just blatant incompetence. It might have been a setup, but I think the actual setup was just Trump showing up with shit security and planning on leaving the second any incident happened, with the “I need a ballroom” bullshit ready to go.
The major through line here are incompetent monsters who believe themselves above the law and untouchable. There’s little coordination to any of it, because the actual goals are always selfish and sadistic.
The Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, was an MKUltra subject, and the experience is what touched off his lifelong “mission.”
He was part of the program, but he was also completely cut loose.
Again I should say, MKUltra was based on nonsense paired with a reckless disregard for consequences. They didn’t care how many people they hurt because hurting people was the goal. Gottlieb shredded most of the records the second accountability came calling, because it was all nonsense.
It’s just like the Nazi medical experiments. One of the more infamous Nazi experiments was injecting dye into the eyes of twins to see of the other twin’s eyes would change color. MKUltra was basically that level of scientific rigor, except with more LSD.
That’s what made the program so dangerous, not some bullshit mind control, the reckless disregard and protection from consequences for the monsters doing the twisted and pointless experiments.
How does shit like that get greenlighted? That nonsense would have sounded just as monstrous back then as it does today.
The best part is that it proved he doesn’t need the ballroom bullshit.
His security worked. Dude didn’t even make it to the same floor.
relevant BTB podcast on Gottlieb and MKUltra, for the unordained
So your position is… MKUltra, or its descendants / lessons learned from it… is not still going on, not deployed or used by anyone, in any way?
I mean, neither of us can ‘prove’ this either way.
But I can point to a whole lot of funny business that’s gone on over the years, with a whole lot of people, and say ‘hey maybe its not unreasonable to consider that that person was brainwashed in some way’.
We know there are currently things like discord servers that intentionally groom young boys into becoming actual school shooters and shit like that.
You aware of the guy at the Kirk shooting who falsely claimed he was the shooter, tried to goad security/police into shooting him, and then when being questioned, literally said that he did that so the actual shooter could escape?
Howabout the guy that was close enough to Area 51 that he was picking up actual classified transmissions on his radio, and the government gaslit him into thinking he was getting signals from aliens… to such an extent that he basically developed paranoid schizophrenia and then ended himself?
The lessons learned from MKUltra were, it doesn’t fucking work.
The ever shifting goals were nebulous at best, and often just monstrous in practice, but at no time did anything ever get accomplished.
It started as an excuse to play with LSD. For something like 10 years, the entire world’s supply of LSD was funneled to the CIA and specifically wherever Sidney Gottlieb wanted it. Often this was into his own body, and the bodies of unsuspecting CIA agents who “agreed” to be secretly dosed at random via their employment contracts.
Originally they thought that LSD could be a truth serum, but that’s bullshit, then they thought that they could “reprogram” people into secret agents (this plan actually came about after the Manchurian Candidate came out.) That part of things got pretty horrific, they found that through the use of torture and drugs, they could completely break a person. Putting them back together proved impossible.
Eventually MKUltra turned into dosing random people in the street or in brothels, seemingly so that one particular creep could watch.
They learned that “guys are more talkative after sex when on drugs”.
It was all fucking nonsense. That’s how these people work, they have some harebrained idea and then throw spaghetti at the wall, trying to make it work out. When it doesn’t, they wander off assuming that someone else will clean up the mess.
All of that is separate from modern social media control programs, which work via scale. But we’ve known that propaganda works at scale since the beginning of history. Like everything else wrong with the modern world, it’s more targeted and tracked now.
You have massive state run influence machines trying to push different narratives, and it’s all just noise. But yes, there are also some dangerous elements. The whole incel culture full of people both pushing dangerous versions of right-wing ideology and preying on the insecurities of young men. I can certainly say that there are people, both employed by governments and not, who make it their lives work to infiltrate various online communities to push different talking points.
But worse is Joel Fucking Kaplan.
So you’re describing the declassified parts, that were not sucessfully, intentionally, destroyed, that we have access to…
As the entirety of every single project related to MKUltra.
(There were many more programs with many more codenames than just MKUltra, MKUltra is just the colloquial blanket term to refer to all of them.)
You don’t think that maybe we just happen to have the nonsense parts?
You don’t think that algorithms that can dial a person down to a pretty specific psychological profile… don’t think that could work for more than just targeted advertising?
That it can be both of broad scale, and also highly precise?
That it could be used to target potentially exploitable, suggestible people, who will be likely so mentally ill they won’t fully understand what happened, what they did, why they did it?
I like the cut of your jib, keep doing what you’re doing
I’d like to hear from Hilton and see the bullet holes. I would assume a large hole from the shotgun and bullets missing the “suspect”. At this point though, I believe no bullets were ever fired because the suspect never shot the shotgun and the Secret Service had blanks = no damage.
If the SS had blanks, well that’d just be fucking insane, like, case closed they knew this was gonna happen.
Now, a shotgun blast hitting a wall, … depends on the kind of wall, the kind of pellets, the range, the choke, etc… but generally yeah, at those point blank ranges in that hallway?
It should be really easy to tell the difference between the impact of a shotgun vs a pistol.
Like yeah I can see them not finding some of the individual shot, in a single shotgun round… could possibly get just bounced around and then kicked around in the scuffle/shuffle that ensued.
… But the impact site itself?
Should be pretty obvious, to anyone whose ever seen different kinds of impact patterns from different rounds/catridges/etc.
Yeah, there should be 9mm slugs/fragments in the walls, or at least near them, where the missed shots at the assailaint went.
Its a fuckin hallway. Contained environment. Multiple hi rez camera angles on the whole thing.
The only complicating factor is the number of people moving around, but you have most of that on camera.
curious since you looked at it so much. what about rate of fire. I assume an automatic fires much faster than a shotgun.
I’m honestly reasonably confident that this whole show is (yet another) setup/false-flag, and the dude is just a patsy.
Hence the suicide watch…practice ice makes perfect
Epstein was on suicide watch. Look at how that turned out.
It’s easy for the FBI or CIA to incite a mentally disturbed person into action. They do it all the time
My theory is they knew he was there and what he was going to do but let it happen
Mine too.
Look how far it pushed GOP policy to ignore mountains of intel and let 9-11 happen. It got unilateral cooperation for a forever-war and the Patriot Act at the very least.
It’s likely the cause for Pearl Harbor too. They wanted something to drum up public support to enter the war.
How badly do you want that to be true versus how much the evidence actually suggests it to be true
I bet you believe Epstein committed suicide too
denied a Bible
Lol ON NO NOT THAT.
They think they’re doing something important by not giving him a Bible. Fucking laughable
Denying any one of a prisoner’s rights is the first step to denying all of a prisoner’s rights.
If not the right to his religious text, then why the right to be visited by a priest? If not a priest, then why his family? And if not family, then why a lawyer – and if not a lawyer, then why even bother with a trial?
I mean sure, if you completely ignore the slippery slope fallacy.
Allowing a religious figure to meet with an inmate isn’t even close to the same thing as a lawyer or family member.
“The slippery slope” isn’t inherently a fallacy
I mean sure, if you completely ignore the slippery slope fallacy.
Did you forget what timeline we’re living in? We’re not slipping down a slope, we’re tumbling off a cliff.
Yeah, in this reality they just start out with refusing access to a lawyer. No slope needed.
No, in this reality they’ve started by denying him access to religious scripture.
Unless they think there’s a bomb in there he’s still protected by first amendment as well as the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act.
Rights that are negotiable aren’t rights at all.
If nothing else happens, either in this instance or in future arrests, his rights were still violated. Is that okay to you?
Maybe not for you and me. But for someone who is religious, that’s a very big deal.
While a worthless rag to many of us, it is the one thing you could always expect to be granted to help break the monotony of incarceration. Being denied even that, leaving one with only their thoughts, in custody, is generally considered cruel and unusual punishment.
The Trump administration claims Allen is anti-christian, but Ken Klippenstein reported that Allen is actually Christian and led a Christian group at Caltech. So not having access to a Bible would be significant to him.
So you are on board with it ?
I just don’t think it rises to the same level of seriousness as the other things they’re doing
You’re absolutely right, and that’s why they did it. Fascists love to boil frogs in order to create permission structures.
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I mean, we have US citizens being detained without due process. I think we’re beyond that.
Being denied a bible likely means he is being denied other reading materials
