For years, tech giants have argued that if information is available on the internet, it can be used for AI model development and outputs. They call it fair use. Content owners have tried to prevent this, with no success.

Now Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google are discovering what the rest of the internet has already learned through painful experience: once you put something online, people will find ways to use it in ways you don’t like and can’t stop.

The latest flashpoint is something called “distillation,” using the outputs of one AI model to improve another. Anthropic says competitors are harvesting its outputs at scale, turning billions of dollars of research into a shortcut for rivals. OpenAI and Google have made similar warnings recently.

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    At least the models like Qwen have open weight versions. It’s the same concept as distributing compiled binaries, though, whereas we really need true FOSS models where all of the code and training data are available under a permissive license. All of these models were trained on copyleft-licensed content, so all of it should be FOSS if the licenses were actually being respected. From that perspective, distillation attacks shouldn’t even be necessary and I couldn’t give two shits that there is no honor among thieves when the real thievery is that these models are closed source.

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    That’s not good. Investors hate costly and protracted legal fights. There was another story about OpenAI stealing tech from apple and I think some kind of data leak maybe? If investors lose confidence in OpenAI that pretty much pops the bubble.

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      With hundreds of billions in their warchests, are there enough lawfirms in the world to meet their legal needs in the coming battle?

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    Wait, they’re mad at innovation?

    “No, no, that’s wrong! Just use our inefficient model like it was before…”

    This is why open source/copyleft is preferable

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    The latest flashpoint is something called “distillation,”

    Incest. It’s digital incest.

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    " …with no success or assistance from any governing body or public group. Creators are a subclass worth extracting any livelihood from them and diverting those markets towards ruling class distribution networks." FTFY

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      The photo did not come through for me on my end, but the alt text did. And my question to you is, is this a tiny violin?

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    It was always about controlling the narrative. Thats it. oh and raping and killing kids