Hey all -
Just curious if anyone has seen a notice related to the news below. Reporting says hundreds sent out and that in most cases the tech companies have to notify the person and give time to contest it. So it would be good to get a clear example of these admin subpoena notices so we can all be on the lookout:
https://www.rawstory.com/ice-2675268854/
Or maybe this is some huge bullshit scare tactic.
Thank you!
I mean it’s a legit concern but, maybe don’t give them your data in the first place?
it’s tough because we need to get the word out to people to advertise events like No kings and share info on ICE, most ppl don’t have the time between working 3 jobs and raising kids to properly research open source options. Those of us who know better have to reach out to those who don’t using their medium.
I always use VPN at bare minimum so I’m not personally worried but I know a lot of ppl who are more into activism than tech privacy who I wanna keep informed.
Yeah, man. Why don’t you just voluntarily remove yourself from society at large so that they can’t own your data? /s
Meta has your data, even if you aren’t a part of their ecosystem. This is true of all the rest of them as well. You can’t “personal responsibility” your way out of this.
…wat?
Not sure what “data” you’re referring to but they don’t have anything useful from me.
No one is doing that. I didn’t say anything about responsibility.
To not give them your data, you can’t interact in their ecosystems. Their ecosystems are the community writ large, so by voluntarily removing yourself from those ecosystems, you’re voluntarily removing yourself from the parts of society that they’ve squatted on. Ergo, removing yourself from society (with a sprinkle of hyperbole, since it was sarcasm)
Without you having signed up to Facebook, if anyone you know who has your phone number has signed up and shared your contact info, then they know your name, who you know, your phone number, which they can then use to associate you to any online interaction where you’ve also given your phone number. They have an idea of the demographics you belong to, political stance (not having a Facebook or Instagram gives them a lot of info for that), and a general vibe of who you are. Source: The exposure after the Cambridge Analytica Scandal
You pointing out that maybe the victims are to blame for their data being in the hands of megacorps surely must imply that you think personal responsibility is the only recourse we have for this. But maybe I read that wrong and you just had no further thoughts beyond what you literally wrote down. Victim blaming for the game of it.
Which is why I don’t give anyone my phone number.
Once again, that never happened, you just made it up, and I don’t appreciate it.
fun fact: its worse than that! its not only about your phone number. signal and almost every chat app exposes your chat partners in the system contacts database. It’s handy for the contacts app to be showing the list of chat apps usable for someone you know. at the minimum your name and profile picture that you set for yourself will be there and accessible to any apps with contacts permission, and in signal (even the molly fork) if that partner has made their phone number visible, that will be saved here too. and you can’t really turn it off for others.
You are misinformed. Signal has your phone number and that’s it. This has been demonstrated time and time again with legal documents.
check your contacts app before stating such things. I’m not stating that signal sends your data to facebook and such, but that signal is registering info into the OS for convenience, that will also he visible to other apps with the privilege granted, including those of facebook
Check my contacts app for what, exactly?