Kristi Noem's DHS secretly demands tech giants fork over names of ICE critics: report
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The Department of Homeland Security has expanded efforts to identify Americans who criticize or track Immigration and Customs Enforcement, sending hundreds of legal requests to major tech companies seeking information behind social media accounts, according to a report in The New York Times.In recen...

Hey all -

Just curious if anyone has seen a notice related to the news below. Reporting says hundreds sent out and that in most cases the tech companies have to notify the person and give time to contest it. So it would be good to get a clear example of these admin subpoena notices so we can all be on the lookout:

https://www.rawstory.com/ice-2675268854/

Or maybe this is some huge bullshit scare tactic.

Thank you!

  • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Yeah, man. Why don’t you just voluntarily remove yourself from society at large so that they can’t own your data? /s

    Meta has your data, even if you aren’t a part of their ecosystem. This is true of all the rest of them as well. You can’t “personal responsibility” your way out of this.

    • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
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      4 days ago

      Why don’t you just voluntarily remove yourself from society at large so that they can’t own your data

      …wat?

      Meta has your data, even if you aren’t a part of their ecosystem

      Not sure what “data” you’re referring to but they don’t have anything useful from me.

      You can’t “personal responsibility” your way out of this.

      No one is doing that. I didn’t say anything about responsibility.

      • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        To not give them your data, you can’t interact in their ecosystems. Their ecosystems are the community writ large, so by voluntarily removing yourself from those ecosystems, you’re voluntarily removing yourself from the parts of society that they’ve squatted on. Ergo, removing yourself from society (with a sprinkle of hyperbole, since it was sarcasm)

        Without you having signed up to Facebook, if anyone you know who has your phone number has signed up and shared your contact info, then they know your name, who you know, your phone number, which they can then use to associate you to any online interaction where you’ve also given your phone number. They have an idea of the demographics you belong to, political stance (not having a Facebook or Instagram gives them a lot of info for that), and a general vibe of who you are. Source: The exposure after the Cambridge Analytica Scandal

        You pointing out that maybe the victims are to blame for their data being in the hands of megacorps surely must imply that you think personal responsibility is the only recourse we have for this. But maybe I read that wrong and you just had no further thoughts beyond what you literally wrote down. Victim blaming for the game of it.

        • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
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          4 days ago

          which they can then use to associate you to any online interaction where you’ve also given your phone number

          Which is why I don’t give anyone my phone number.

          You pointing out that maybe the victims are to blame for their data being in the hands of megacorps

          Once again, that never happened, you just made it up, and I don’t appreciate it.

          • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            3 days ago

            Which is why I don’t give anyone my phone number.

            fun fact: its worse than that! its not only about your phone number. signal and almost every chat app exposes your chat partners in the system contacts database. It’s handy for the contacts app to be showing the list of chat apps usable for someone you know. at the minimum your name and profile picture that you set for yourself will be there and accessible to any apps with contacts permission, and in signal (even the molly fork) if that partner has made their phone number visible, that will be saved here too. and you can’t really turn it off for others.

            • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
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              3 days ago

              You are misinformed. Signal has your phone number and that’s it. This has been demonstrated time and time again with legal documents.

              • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                3 days ago

                check your contacts app before stating such things. I’m not stating that signal sends your data to facebook and such, but that signal is registering info into the OS for convenience, that will also he visible to other apps with the privilege granted, including those of facebook

                  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                    2 days ago

                    sorry, I think I was wrong. signal/molly only attaches that information to a contact when it already has the phone number that they use for signal.

                    so unless you keep your phone number visible on signal, or you share your phone number in another way, this shouldn’t be a problem.