• ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    This goes against my current view of the situation. The NATO expansion is somewhat understandable, not enough for a war perhaps, but unsure.

    Care to point me in the direction to read more about this?

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        21 hours ago

        Thanks, exactly what I was looking for! 😄 As a Norwegian pretty much everyone sides with Ukraine, and I have not really challenged that view for myself. I have just accepted the narrative “Russia = imperialistic & bad. Ukraine = democracy & good”. So it’s probably a good idea to try to understand it

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          18 hours ago

          Good on you for being open to non-western propaganda sources. Curiosity seems to be mostly dead in the lemmy liberal scene.

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                6 hours ago

                To be honest I’ve been trying to avoid that as well. Impossible to completely stay free of the bombardment of the Official Opinion, but I mostly read local newspapers and skip any opinion pieces on international matters in those too. So I have enough stress knowing there is a war, I don’t need to hear bullshit justifications from any side, and maybe aside from going to demonstrations I can’t do anything to stop it anyway, so I’d rather not blast my brain with power politics I cannot change.

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                  7 minutes ago

                  “I don’t get information from either side, but I sure do have strong opinions about which side is the aggressor that I got from… Somewhere”

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                    2 hours ago

                    And I have accepted my lack of power. I can’t even keep my own emotions under control most days, let alone convince anyone else I’m somehow more knowledgeable or wise.

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          21 hours ago

          Understandable! It’s one of the more difficult topics for westerners like us to grasp, and it took me some time to come around to the ML consensus on the Russian Federation (ie, it isn’t imperialist if we accept Lenin’s analysis, and actually is anti imperialist even if run by bourgeois oligarchs).