• neo2478@sh.itjust.works
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        They are not as secure, but are private and more than secure enough in my opinion.

        And some can be used with more ethical phones like the Fairphone.

        GOS sometimes feel like a cult to me. GOS is absolutely the only good ROM and everything else is terrible. There is no nuance.

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          Nobody’s saying that those other ones are terrible and they are better than stock Android for security and less tracking here. But it is the best one and does things that the other ones don’t.

          You can use a fairphone with one of those and if you’re happy with it, it’s absolutely better than what most people do and if it works it works. But people really like GOS for a good reason. The cult comment can be applied to Linux users, so who gives a shit?

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      First off, that’s software when the user asked for an alternative to the Pixel, which is hardware.

      Secondly, I don’t see how those are an alternative. It’s websites locking you out unless you run Google Play Services. LineageOS etc doesn’t run the official PlayServices which is what this requires.

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        I took the question as an alternative to Grapheme, but perhaps you are correct.

        And all those OSes you could install. Google Play Services if you want, even sandbox them like Graphene.

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      How is that an alternative? You still have to buy Android phones and they’re wayyyy less secure

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        There are mch more ethical companies than google to buy phones from, like Fairphone.

        And “wayyy” less secure is very debatable. There a some security features missing, but still more than secure enough for the vast majority of users.

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          22 hours ago

          There is no ethical consumption under capitalism

          Also I don’t give a shit about ethics if being ethical means a cop can get into my phone

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            13 hours ago

            There are absolutely things that are more ethical than others. Absolute statements like that are unhelpful. Fairphone is not perfect, but a lot more ethical than the alternatives.

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            That’s such a cop out. Good luck to a cop trying to get into my phone. Grapheme is not the only ROM that prevents this.

            And as the other comment said, there are companies that are way more ethical. Not perfect due to the system but way better.

            And this mubd set of not giving a shit about ethics as long as things work well for you, is what enables companies to be shit and exploit the world.