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      What you talking about.

      There is video of this incident and the woman tried to lets the cops pass and they told her to move. Then when she drove forwards to move they unloaded on her.

      If he had enough time to shoot and get out of the way he had enough time to just get out of the way.

      American cops are babies. Just look at how the UK cops disarmed a guy with a knife yesterday who stabbed two people.

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        And let’s not forget, THEY WERE NOT FUCKING COPS. ICE are not police no matter what vest they buy from Amazon. They are not police. They are immigration enforcement. Again, not police

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          I watched the two videos where she was told to move as she was in the way and offering them to pass. When they told her to move and so she did.

          Even if someone’s fleeing isn’t it better to just record their tag and then go arrest them at home rather than just murder them.

          American cops are big babies. Always scared and always assume the worst. I’ve seen them shoot People dead who have a knife where we in the UK repeatedly take out knife attackers with just a taser or riot shields. When you’re a hammer everything looks like a nail, when you have a gun you just shoot first. The amount of times they let people bleed out as they’re too soft to approach a downed target 😂.

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            I’ve seen videos of US cops shooting people running away, or just casually shooting people in the head like they were at the range.

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          Don’t engage this troll. 3 year account with 4 posts: two when he started 2.8 years ago, and two today. One post mentioned that he preferred the “control” over at Reddit.

          4 posts, and we know he loves Reddit and Law Enforcement authority. He’s a proud Fascist.

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      Law Enforcement is already finding out that they can’t fuck with American citizens. They exist at OUR pleasure, not the other way around. We know that, but we are polite enough to not dwell on it, and just live our lives.

      But interrupt that flow of society, and it will not go well for them. They are BADLY outnumbered.

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        Law Enforcement is already finding out that they can’t fuck with American citizens

        Huh?

        Seems like they pretty much can go around murdering American citizens with impunity. Where is the finding out?

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          The ubiquity of video cameras mean that police abuses are coming to light constantly, and bad cops are being held accountable for the first time. Here’s a recent video of two NYC detectives brutally beating a guy in a bodega, in public, on front of witnesses, in front of cameras.

          It used to be that the public would automatically take the side of Law Enforcement, but now it is exactly the opposite. In fact, now people WANT to catch cops doing bad stuff so they get a valuable viral video.

          These guys - detectives, so they are experienced trained veteran caps - were confident that they could beat this totally innocent victim of mistaken identity (so the cops were incompetent, too, not just violent), with no consequences at all, but they’ve been fired. If there hadn’t been a camera, if the video hadn’t been released, these cops would have totally gotten away with it, but the public is now monitoring every public Law Enforcement incident, and acting on the abuses they record.

          The environment for cops has turned much more hostile, and it’s getting even hotter. Just because people aren’t shooting at cops (yet) doesn’t mean that cops aren’t feeling the heat. Getting outed in the international media as a violent scumbag for beating and killing innocent people, and getting fired for it (due to the undeniable video evidence), means your FAMILY is going to have to deal with YOUR Tomfoolery at school, work, church, the grocery store, the salon, friends, etc. Do you think your kids’ friends are going to be allowed to come over to play? Mine wouldn’t be.

          Think of that arrogant, racist, violent ape, when he realizes that the brutal, violent career he loves has come to an end, and he’s probably going to have to take a job at Home Depot, or worse, in the guard shack at a gated community for rich assholes, where he will make minimum wage, and he won’t be allowed to beat up the residents for Fun & Dopamine, and whatever else he can steal from them. And on top of that, his family hates him. There are worse things than death.

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          Just because they aren’t as bad as they could be, we should just allow them to continue being increasingly abusive?

          Here’s an example of two veteran, trained, experienced NYC detectives handling a suspect in their own special “civilized” way, in public, in front of cameras, confident nothing will happen to them.

          Oh, BTW, they had the wrong guy. He’s now suing them for $100 million, for their “civilized” behavior, so something did happen to them, they got fired. THEY were the ones who FAFO’d.

          Cops, civilized? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. After MAGA, law enforcement is easily the most destabilizing, uncivilized entity in America. American cops are a large portion of the problem.

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              First of all, I never used that phrase, and I don’t agree with it, and I am seriously offended whenever anyone tries to put words I dont agree with, and didn’t say, in my mouth with QUOTATIONS. I didn’t say that, I don’t believe that, and you reveal yourself as disengenuous right out of the gate. That means you’re a liar.

              “Defund the police” was a really stupid, but typical, self-inflicted Democratic wound. Really, really dumb, even dumber than the usual Democratic stupidity. It was about the worst choice of words to describe a necessary thing we need to do - reform law enforcement - but that phrase handed MAGA a propaganda grenade that they could throw into every discussion, just like you just did.

              No, I am not for “defunding” the police, whatever that means, anyway. I AM for taking strict independent civilian control of police budgets, training, hiring, and firing. The entire Law Enforcement model in this country need to be totally overhauled, with the emphasis put on crime prevention, and rehabilitation. Mental health teams should be a mandatory part of every police department, to be dispatched to certain scenes. De-escalation should be emphasized at all times. Cops will be trained to handle violent situations, but the strategy should always be to calm things down.

              Along with that, we need better childhood education, with the emphasis OFF political indoctrination, and more on teaching Critical Thinking Skills, so they know how to THINK, and handle everyday problems, and reject propaganda. Without Critical Thinking Skills, people don’t learn to think properly, and they substitute a chaotic mentality that leaves them susceptible to scams, propaganda, predators & parasites, abusive partners, MAGA, etc, and leads them into CRIME. Give kids good Critical Thinking Skills, and an education that includes either college or some sort of vocational training, and you will greatly reduce crime over the next generation.

              Whenever there is a shooting, we hear that the cop followed all the protocols he learned in training. When a cop kills someone in a situation that could have easily ended with no deaths, simply because the cop steered it that way, the “protocols” and “training” shouldn’t excuse it. He may have followed the rules he was taught, but that’s a bright red flashing sign that those rules are faulty, and need reform. We need new rules.

              It’s not stupid to call for Law Enforcement to have to follow civilized rules of society, and want to reform them so that they do. It IS stupid to demand we keep supporting a system that is clearly corrupt, violent, expensive, and badly broken, without even acknowledging there is a problem.

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                Defund em. We need PEACE officers, not PTSD fash thugs. And the crackhead will handle the job cheaper.