• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      3 days ago

      Just because they aren’t as bad as they could be, we should just allow them to continue being increasingly abusive?

      Here’s an example of two veteran, trained, experienced NYC detectives handling a suspect in their own special “civilized” way, in public, in front of cameras, confident nothing will happen to them.

      Oh, BTW, they had the wrong guy. He’s now suing them for $100 million, for their “civilized” behavior, so something did happen to them, they got fired. THEY were the ones who FAFO’d.

      Cops, civilized? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. After MAGA, law enforcement is easily the most destabilizing, uncivilized entity in America. American cops are a large portion of the problem.

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          3 days ago

          First of all, I never used that phrase, and I don’t agree with it, and I am seriously offended whenever anyone tries to put words I dont agree with, and didn’t say, in my mouth with QUOTATIONS. I didn’t say that, I don’t believe that, and you reveal yourself as disengenuous right out of the gate. That means you’re a liar.

          “Defund the police” was a really stupid, but typical, self-inflicted Democratic wound. Really, really dumb, even dumber than the usual Democratic stupidity. It was about the worst choice of words to describe a necessary thing we need to do - reform law enforcement - but that phrase handed MAGA a propaganda grenade that they could throw into every discussion, just like you just did.

          No, I am not for “defunding” the police, whatever that means, anyway. I AM for taking strict independent civilian control of police budgets, training, hiring, and firing. The entire Law Enforcement model in this country need to be totally overhauled, with the emphasis put on crime prevention, and rehabilitation. Mental health teams should be a mandatory part of every police department, to be dispatched to certain scenes. De-escalation should be emphasized at all times. Cops will be trained to handle violent situations, but the strategy should always be to calm things down.

          Along with that, we need better childhood education, with the emphasis OFF political indoctrination, and more on teaching Critical Thinking Skills, so they know how to THINK, and handle everyday problems, and reject propaganda. Without Critical Thinking Skills, people don’t learn to think properly, and they substitute a chaotic mentality that leaves them susceptible to scams, propaganda, predators & parasites, abusive partners, MAGA, etc, and leads them into CRIME. Give kids good Critical Thinking Skills, and an education that includes either college or some sort of vocational training, and you will greatly reduce crime over the next generation.

          Whenever there is a shooting, we hear that the cop followed all the protocols he learned in training. When a cop kills someone in a situation that could have easily ended with no deaths, simply because the cop steered it that way, the “protocols” and “training” shouldn’t excuse it. He may have followed the rules he was taught, but that’s a bright red flashing sign that those rules are faulty, and need reform. We need new rules.

          It’s not stupid to call for Law Enforcement to have to follow civilized rules of society, and want to reform them so that they do. It IS stupid to demand we keep supporting a system that is clearly corrupt, violent, expensive, and badly broken, without even acknowledging there is a problem.

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            2 days ago

            Defund em. We need PEACE officers, not PTSD fash thugs. And the crackhead will handle the job cheaper.