Valve largely stands as one of the last vestiges of consumer positive industries, save for stuff like this, which I think everyone agrees is not good. It’s definitely gambling, and it definitely eroded and continues to erode gaming and civilization, in general.
However, in a world of cutthroat wolves and truly evil entities and secret boards of oligarchies, Valve alone sits as a private company, not behaving primarily as a dark pattern machine.
Attacking them needs to happen, but in a political time of rising fascism around the world, and especially as it takes hold in almost all of the federal government and many powerful institutions have recently taken radical nosedives, a power vacuum where, at WORST a grey company once stood, is the last thing we need.
Attacking Valve should happen. But not right now. “My enemy’s enemy is my friend”, and valve has historically stood protecting gamers, and business and industry, against many of the worst behaviors, as basically a grey paragon of hope.
Tearing them down right now is such a fool’s errand where the best outcome is unfortunately a weakening of the company that gives SO MANY PEOPLE hope and peace at the end of the day.
You obviously aren’t a fool, and seem quite aware of the dynamics, both legally and really. But, going off the average .ml values and rising industry of communist country gaming companies, I can only assume a motive to weaken the most powerful and successful institution that stands in the way of foreign entities gaining more momentum, be it deliberate or not.
The damage and negativity of allowing the structuring of gambling in this past time is undeniable.
But cutting off one of the hands of one of the few institutions and leading companies that isn’t a brazen flagrant late stage capitalist machine, bowing and tithing the fascist federal government is fucking stupid.
Sue EA or an actual auto shitty company instead. Valve will take notice. And if they don’t change their ways, wait until there isn’t a Nazi sympathizer as president who’s being very successful replacing the heads of all information and power throughout the country.
But until then, people need to see attacking Valve for what it really is: attacking virtually the last industry leading and extremely powerful company that stands against everything Trump stands for. As grey and imperfect as they are, they, alone, stand above as a Paragon against the darkness.
So… I consider myself to generally be quite the Valve fanboy, but I try to base that as much on reality as I can.
… Video games are less important than the concept of an impartial, fair and just legal system, than the idea of having a society that does not permit massive exploitation of children.
Nobody with a life spent in law knows dick about how Valve being basically the only major gaming company that isn’t publically traded and doesn’t have a bunch of investors and stock holders to answer to means that it functionally is the least evil major gaming company.
(Beyond Valve’s lawyers, I guess.)
I get where you are coming from, but you’re acting like everyone cares about and values Valve as much as you do.
You’re not wrong to see them as the best overall corporate force for good in gaming… but that you think any entity that tries to broadly do good, conflicting with another… is infighting?
No, these are completely different groups of people, who focus on completely different realms… its very strange to me, that you see the world in a way where its all so conflated.
…and Valve can’t be grey and imperfect and also paragons at the same time. Paragon literally means without flaws.
Let me offer a … slightly different way of looking at it, that’s about as cheesy/overwrought as you are being:
…Valve’s the flawed hero gamers deserve, but not the one they need to prioritize right now. So, let the heroes hunt them, because Valve can take it.
Yes, I understand what makes it legal and the commonality of the legal dynamic. It just feels like very inopportune infighting.
Inopportune infighting?
What do you mean by that, I genuienly don’t understand.
State AGs often bring consumer rights based suits against businesses.
Sometimes those businesses are based in other states.
How is this infighting?
Do you think that like NY and WA are legally fighting or something?
That’s not how this works.
Valve largely stands as one of the last vestiges of consumer positive industries, save for stuff like this, which I think everyone agrees is not good. It’s definitely gambling, and it definitely eroded and continues to erode gaming and civilization, in general.
However, in a world of cutthroat wolves and truly evil entities and secret boards of oligarchies, Valve alone sits as a private company, not behaving primarily as a dark pattern machine.
Attacking them needs to happen, but in a political time of rising fascism around the world, and especially as it takes hold in almost all of the federal government and many powerful institutions have recently taken radical nosedives, a power vacuum where, at WORST a grey company once stood, is the last thing we need.
Attacking Valve should happen. But not right now. “My enemy’s enemy is my friend”, and valve has historically stood protecting gamers, and business and industry, against many of the worst behaviors, as basically a grey paragon of hope.
Tearing them down right now is such a fool’s errand where the best outcome is unfortunately a weakening of the company that gives SO MANY PEOPLE hope and peace at the end of the day.
You obviously aren’t a fool, and seem quite aware of the dynamics, both legally and really. But, going off the average .ml values and rising industry of communist country gaming companies, I can only assume a motive to weaken the most powerful and successful institution that stands in the way of foreign entities gaining more momentum, be it deliberate or not.
The damage and negativity of allowing the structuring of gambling in this past time is undeniable.
But cutting off one of the hands of one of the few institutions and leading companies that isn’t a brazen flagrant late stage capitalist machine, bowing and tithing the fascist federal government is fucking stupid.
Sue EA or an actual auto shitty company instead. Valve will take notice. And if they don’t change their ways, wait until there isn’t a Nazi sympathizer as president who’s being very successful replacing the heads of all information and power throughout the country.
But until then, people need to see attacking Valve for what it really is: attacking virtually the last industry leading and extremely powerful company that stands against everything Trump stands for. As grey and imperfect as they are, they, alone, stand above as a Paragon against the darkness.
Uh…
Ok.
So… I consider myself to generally be quite the Valve fanboy, but I try to base that as much on reality as I can.
… Video games are less important than the concept of an impartial, fair and just legal system, than the idea of having a society that does not permit massive exploitation of children.
Nobody with a life spent in law knows dick about how Valve being basically the only major gaming company that isn’t publically traded and doesn’t have a bunch of investors and stock holders to answer to means that it functionally is the least evil major gaming company.
(Beyond Valve’s lawyers, I guess.)
I get where you are coming from, but you’re acting like everyone cares about and values Valve as much as you do.
You’re not wrong to see them as the best overall corporate force for good in gaming… but that you think any entity that tries to broadly do good, conflicting with another… is infighting?
No, these are completely different groups of people, who focus on completely different realms… its very strange to me, that you see the world in a way where its all so conflated.
…and Valve can’t be grey and imperfect and also paragons at the same time. Paragon literally means without flaws.
Let me offer a … slightly different way of looking at it, that’s about as cheesy/overwrought as you are being:
…Valve’s the flawed hero gamers deserve, but not the one they need to prioritize right now. So, let the heroes hunt them, because Valve can take it.