Fervent organisational/inherited loyalty doesn’t make sense to me ,so anything based upon that ruins my immersion.
Movies are just stories, you don’t have to ideologically agree with the existence of familial organized crime in order to enjoy a story about it.
And we’re not even talking about scifi here. The Godfather is almost historical fiction. It’s based on things that exist(ed) in real life, there’s no need to suspend disbelief.
Not trying to be argumentative, I just cannot understand this viewpoint. How can you be “immersed” in literally any story about anything if you think like this?
It’s not really about a conflict of ideology, as i said, i do understand it’s a thing, i even understand why it’s a thing (to an extent).
It’s also not about it being fictional, i have the same issue with it in real life, it just doesn’t tend to be so concentrated in my day to day life.
Closest example i can think of is that it’s like watching media that heavily features something in which you are an expert, but does so in such a way as to be noticeably bullshit.
It’s jarring enough to take you out of the flow of the movie/show.
If you’ve any experience with programming, it’s things like this
Or like being a huge sports fan, but the media you are watching clearly doesn’t understand the rules of the sport it’s depicting.
Suspension of disbelief wasn’t quite the correct phrase (that’s on me), it’s more like a cognitive stutter.
Somebody doing something because of inherited loyalty or “for the family” without any supporting reasoning feels like watching someone firing 50 rounds with a 6 chamber revolver ( apologies if that’s the wrong terminology, I’m not a gun person ).
is it critical to the story that this details is right ? not necessarily, but if it happens constantly throughout the story it can ruin the enjoyment (for some people at least).
I want to be clear that I’m not claiming to be an expert in loyalty or anything, it’s just far enough away from my expectations that it’s jarring, it’s almost certainly some weird hypersensitivity of mine.
Movies are just stories, you don’t have to ideologically agree with the existence of familial organized crime in order to enjoy a story about it.
And we’re not even talking about scifi here. The Godfather is almost historical fiction. It’s based on things that exist(ed) in real life, there’s no need to suspend disbelief.
Not trying to be argumentative, I just cannot understand this viewpoint. How can you be “immersed” in literally any story about anything if you think like this?
It’s not really about a conflict of ideology, as i said, i do understand it’s a thing, i even understand why it’s a thing (to an extent).
It’s also not about it being fictional, i have the same issue with it in real life, it just doesn’t tend to be so concentrated in my day to day life.
Closest example i can think of is that it’s like watching media that heavily features something in which you are an expert, but does so in such a way as to be noticeably bullshit.
It’s jarring enough to take you out of the flow of the movie/show.
If you’ve any experience with programming, it’s things like this
Or like being a huge sports fan, but the media you are watching clearly doesn’t understand the rules of the sport it’s depicting.
Suspension of disbelief wasn’t quite the correct phrase (that’s on me), it’s more like a cognitive stutter.
Somebody doing something because of inherited loyalty or “for the family” without any supporting reasoning feels like watching someone firing 50 rounds with a 6 chamber revolver ( apologies if that’s the wrong terminology, I’m not a gun person ).
is it critical to the story that this details is right ? not necessarily, but if it happens constantly throughout the story it can ruin the enjoyment (for some people at least).
I want to be clear that I’m not claiming to be an expert in loyalty or anything, it’s just far enough away from my expectations that it’s jarring, it’s almost certainly some weird hypersensitivity of mine.