Get your shortnames while the getting’s good.
If nothing else we know this project will piss off Elon and that’s always a plus.
hahaha, this is the first thing I though after the idiot changed the iconic name to nothing, go twitter! (no, I’m not joining bluebird, but I like the trust threshold idea)
Ah yes, just what the world needs: another Twitter.
Twitter was awful before Musk bought it. Hard pass.
Yeah i’il keep using mastodon and bluesky, also, they already have investors so it’s dead at birth for me
Bluesky is also owned by a corporation and, like Twitter, could sell to a fascist billionaire whenever they find it profitable to do so.
X vs Bluesky is a great microcosm of American team-sports politics. Mastodon is something actually new.
After seeing what happened to Twitter following the purchase, I think anyone who buys Bluesky would be very wary about trashing the brand in the same way.
Yeah but ppl are on bluesky
Have you met people?
who needs people when you can talk to leftist nerds ?
Yeah that’s true but perfect is the enemy of good, Mastodon isn’t gaining much traction so my hope is that at least we can get a federated protocol, whatever it is
Perfect is the enemy of good, but so is the desire for convenience.
Mastodon gains less traction because it doesn’t have an advertising budget, unlike Bluesky. Because Bluesky is owned by a corporation.
Is Bluesky federated? I thought it wasn’t. Tumblr also said they were going to, but then just… didn’t.
Bluesky is federated if you have $10,000,000
Yeah it does, though it uses their own protocol (ATprotocol) they open sourced it too
The AT Protocol was open from the start. It’s not the issue and is actually rather clever in parts, in my limited understanding.
The issue has more been that there was no way to run another server than the main one at first, and then that you could but it couldn’t interoperate. I understand this is now something of the past, but I don’t think I’ve ever come across a link to a bluesky post that wasn’t on bsky.app.
Looking a bit into it, it looks like all you need to do is host a Personal Data Server (PDS): https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds?tab=readme-ov-file#self-hosting-a-pds
PDS is just one part of the whole thing. It’s just the place where your data is stored. Almost all other parts of the network are dependent on Bluesky’s stack. Even the alternatives like Blacksky and Eurosky are still dependent of Bluesky’s implementations like the Appview. So if Bluesky goes down, it affects the other services (in some way) too. One can host a PDS for cheap, but if you want a proper social media service (with post history, search etc), it is kind of expensive. There are other appviews, but for some reason Bluesky going down causes issues in Blacksky, Eurosky etc
then that you could but it couldn’t interoperate
So now you can? I hope so…
Anyway yeah, i never seen someone self host their own instance even though it should be possible
Mastodon has a cultural problem… too woke, too many queers and freaky people, autistics, and activitists shilling for lame causes or selling (needless, silly) things. In the real world these people are 3-5% of the population. On the Fediverse, they are 75-90% of the population. Not a place that the other 95-98% of the population really wants to be. The mentally ill, each one given a bullhorn.
also, they already have investors so it’s dead at birth for me
Launching with the immediate intent for profit screams either a scam (Especially with Musk being kind to give up the name, massive red flag).
Smells like deception. Please come to our “New” site with the same name but this one is totally not uncool or handing all your personal info to Musk.
But spend more money? $8 on that piece of shit “X” site. Fucking joke show.
But you can pay $20 for the premium instantaneous social media aggregate algorithm site! You’ll get all the top paid for profit sponsored posts first before anyone else! Just imagine retweeting your friends minutes before they see this million dollar donated Pepsi ad that is collaborating with Oreo! Whooooaaaaaa! You’ll be the most popular person in your friend group for 15 seconds! But make sure you share first or else you’ll be ostracized by everyone because you didn’t pay an extra $9.99 for ultra fast retweet privilege!
Yeah
And I’m going to keep dead naming X as Twitter until Musk stops dead naming his daughter. I never used the site in the first place, but that’s besides the point.
ngl, who cares? I’ve never seen somebody going rabid over calling it Twitter.
And I’m going to keep dead naming X as Twitter until Musk stops dead naming his daughter.
I’ll dead name Twitter long after Musk stops dead naming his daughter, or he himself is dead. X is a stupid fucking name.
We both know Musk is never going to stop dead naming his daughter, so same difference.
I joined when it was the only way to win a pair of tickets to The Colbert show’s last taping. I didn’t win, I’ve never opened the site again. My username is like “adifficultpoo” lol
imo musk is a deadname now after he came out as a nazi. Now its just the nazi or space nazi if there are multiple nazi’s in the subject being discussed
“Early Access is open. $20 to join, $40+ to fight.” From twitter.now
xD. The original twitter was free!
Yeah. Not falling for that.
Yeah. “Lets try centralized algorithmic corporate social media again.”
Im sure this attempt will end up just as wholesome.
Also, with a website that’s clearly designed by AI.
What could go wrong
Gonna be digg 2.0 (or 3.0?) all over again.
I’m not claiming Twitter is great.
But this is obviously going to fail, always was obviously going to fail. It’s a PR stunt, nothing more.
Twitter will sue them, they’ll settle for giving up the name and some token fine, and hopefully they’re on the map. Or, their hail mary long shot will pay off and they’ll get to call themselves twitter in which case holy shit they’re golden. That’s the strategy.
It’s stupid- they’ll lose in court and I doubt whatever they offer is more compelling than what’s already out there.
It’s stupid
Definitely.
they’ll lose in court
I’m not sure they will, genuinely. They intentionally abandoned the domain name for the website… and they’re no longer using the logo or name anywhere on their product, or corporate documentation.
The case that it’s up for grabs is actually decently strong.
Disney didn’t use Steamboat Willie for a while, they didn’t lose it…
Steamboat Willie is an example of Copyright. Twitter is an example of a Trademark. A Copyright is much much much easier to defend than a Trademark.
https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/trademark-patent-copyright
This is more akin to Disney saying, “We hate mice! Disney is now a chain of casinos and we’re rebranding to 🅱️!”
Could almost be similar to the situation that forced Musk to buy Twitter in the first place, because he of course tweeted that Twitter would never be Twitter again and they were ‘getting rid of the bird’”.
There are more details in the article and older articles linked as well.
Imo reviving Twitter as paid ai slop is just making a mockery of it.
Imo twitter was always a joke
FAQ was dead linking when I clicked on it earlier, too.
- Cash grab on an old name and hoping people pony up the $20 to join it.
- Not using ActivityPub or ATProto.
Yeah, it’s already DOA.
If anyone is serious about creating a new centralised social network these days, they have already lost.
and the sign up doesn’t even work, just 404s
Oh lol. It must have been because their firebase tokens were exposed and people were able to get around the waitlist/payment and sign up for an account.
Take a look: https://x.com/Patrosi73/status/2093079851393524087 (I would link to Xcancel/Nitter… but space karen decided to wig out)
It may well be intended as a serious attempt but personally I’m just going to view it as trolling/a gimmick, in which case I don’t care how shit the actual platform is. Seems to be more about making a point against Musk than getting a serious userbase.
Shame. A new Twitter that supports all the open protocols would have been cool. Fediverse with a name people recognise.
Isn’t that just Mastodon?
Mastodon is not called Twitter, and the vast majority of people have no idea what it is, unfortunately. A Mastodon instance called Twitter would be a great idea, although I think Mastodon doesn’t support all the protocols like Friendica does. But Friendica is too unlike Twitter.
I suppose that could potentially drag Mastodon’s developer into a legal fight (if X were to sue them), which would be costly and a distraction.
Not mastodon devs but the instance owners
I have a feeling that Musk is gonna sue who he’s gonna sue.
Mh yeah you are quite right i guess, he’s dumb and rich
Somewhere in there is step 3: profit
I want to start a business that fleeces these rubes, how does an average man break into the bullshit game
Would be funny if Twitter/X Supports ATProto. Maybe also don’t give up the X Brand and you could interact with Bluesky users or twitter or X Handles and if you Bridge to the Fediverse yeah that works to. I could really delete my x/Twitter Profile and say. Hey My new Handle is my bridged Mastodon Account.
Coates and his coterie
Hah
So, I’m just checking…
- It is not open source?
- It uses AI to “Fact-Check”?
- It costs 20$ to join, and possibly more later?
Well, they have chosen interesting path those people behind this thing.
This will never amount to more than a cash grab.
Sadly, true.
sounds like Shitler himself launched the “new site” for some extra money grabbing.
If only it was just a Mastodon instance (was thinking about creating “Twatter”, as a joke).
They’ll fail pretty quickly I bet, so the Mastodon instance could still happen later!
They’re probably trying to give Phoenix vibes with the new logo, but I’m not Pheelin’ it.
2022: Come on, it’s just 8$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2026: Come on, it’s just 20$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2030: Come on, it’s just 50 bottle caps, it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2050: What’s coffee?
:(
Literally every year since the internet was created: the dollar sign goes before the number, my dude.
Didn’t know since we don’t follow this convention where I’m from.
Shrugs
Where are you from? In English it’s always the case that you put the dollar sign before the number.
Every one of these symbols goes before the number: $€£¥₹
Where are you from where it comes after? What currency do you use?
The only time this comes after the number, that I am aware of, is when you use abbreviations like USD or EUR instead of the symbol.
It’s language specific. In english it comes before the number. In many other languages it comes after.
The dollar sign in English, maybe. But other languages and currencies have the symbol after the value, so it’s easy to get confused
I understand that it’s different in other languages, but I often see this behavior from native US Americans who only speak English.
Is it that relevant in this day and age? I was taught you put £ (or whatever currency you’re using) first when you’re writing so Johnny Fraudster can’t turn your 100£ into 1100£.
That all feels a bit immaterial on the web.
Hence the underline under the 00 cents/pence on a check/cheque.
Yes, it’s relevant in this day and age, because it’s still incorrect to do it the other way (at least in English and with $£¥ and a couple others, as another commenter pointed out).
When I read “20$” my first thought is that the person writing it didn’t pay attention in elementary school.
And being lenient about it on the web leads to the behavior leaking into the real world on things like shop signs.
Don’t even get me started on people who (mostly IRL) write things like “0.99¢” which makes me want to give them a cent and tell them to keep the change.
I don’t speak english natively. That’s why I didn’t know, yeah.
Now think about how much worse it is for every non-English western language! But good luck with your endeavour.
Thanks! Yeah I guess it might be hard for some people, but I speak some French and Spanish and it’s not hard for me to remember to ¡use proper exclamation points in Spanish! or «use guillemets instead of quotation marks in French». This feels like the same sort of thing.
