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  • spacesatan@leminal.spacetoMemes@lemmy.mlThe problem with socialism
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    2 days ago

    Why not say 99% if you’re just pulling a number out of your ass.

    and all the over production that ends up in landfills

    Overproducing food is fundamentally good and there is not that much overproduction of other goods. Clothing sure but that is not a massive percent of global labor.

    If socialism is that much more efficient than capitalism why is every socialist country not absolutely flourishing with 1 socialist worker reaping the same benefits as almost 7 capitalist workers?

    (Btw I spent yesterday testing sewage samples and I’d do it for free if I didn’t need money to survive so miss me with any ‘how would we convince people to do gross work’ bullshit)

    if ‘people will work for the joy of work’ was a reliable way to run an economy wouldn’t you see capitalists who aren’t reliant on wage labor choosing to work? You don’t because economies function by the norm not the exception and most people would rather relax and maybe make art than voluntarily do a shitty job that has an abstract benefit to society.





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    8 days ago

    That is not what that data is or says.

    158 is not 30% of 285 for starters.

    Total wages paid are a bit over half of gdp. 55% is notably quite a bit more than 15%. Think I had gdp from a different year than wages, still closer to accurate than 85%

    *the fact that somebody completely misreading a graph and claiming it as a source is getting upvoted is about to turn me into a liberal out of embarrassment. Like damn, I guess there was negative exploitation in 1970. Neoliberals might be evil but at least they usually appreciate nuance and factuality more than ideological improv. The online left can never settle for reality, everything has to be embellished. Every injustice has to be 'yes, and’ed until society would actually fluorish under a new golden age where we all work 10 seconds per week if you just got rid of landlords.

    literally feelings over facts.


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    8 days ago

    Wealth is not income. You can’t derive the rate of exploitation from wealth inequality.

    If we assume that every worker produces roughly the same value

    I mean lol again. Especially if you need to stretch as far as the top 10%. Doctors, surgeons, electricians, linemen, plumbers, veterinarians, dentists, engineers, etc are all going to be producing more than double the value of your average retail worker.


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    8 days ago

    I get that it’s a meme but 85% is delusional. If you think under socialism we could work 15% as much as we do now and maintain the same standard of living then lol, lmao, etc.

    *online leftists coping and seething after food and housing don’t just magically spring forth from the earth when you abolish rent-seeking

    If you have a Real Job where you interact with the material world it is impossible to believe that 85% of the things you physically make or do are consumed by capitalists.