Nice thanks for the info!

I have been seriously looking at one of these, what’s your experience with maintenance costs?

I just don’t like the Toyota hybrid. Prius prime was good when I test drove it but the rest are meh.

My wife has a Honda clarity PHEV that goes about 40 miles on a charge and for the most part she only needs the engine for highway driving day to day.

From an engineering and tech standpoint Honda makes an impressive hybrid system I just wish they had it on the Odyssey. You can get it on the Civic and Accord hybrids.

I’m personally looking at the Pollstar and Volvo wagons since I won’t get a Chrysler Pacifica PHEV. But I’m also taking a serious look at the Porsche Taycan as it’s essentially a wagon.

The mustang Mach E is actually a decent car, one of my best friends wanted an EV and had not even thought about Ford when I suggested it. He test drove one and took it home that day!

I have also tested the VW id BUZZ and it’s great but as a van it’s not as good as the Odyssey.

What I want more than anything is Honda to get it’s shit together but I’m at 200k and I won’t wait forever so one of the above vehicles is going to get my money if Honda won’t sell me what I want.