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  • Yprum@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlHow to find nazis
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    5 days ago

    I may be over thinking it, but that’s not what it reads like to me. Like at all.

    The post doesn’t say “anyone defending a Nazi” is a Nazi. Which sure, makes sense. I agree.

    The post says “anyone saying that you shouldn’t call a Nazi to those who disagree with you means they are by extension Nazis”. That assumes that calling someone a Nazi can never be wrong if they disagree with you and you are not a Nazi. Someone that is not a Nazi can disagree with someone that is not a Nazi. The post seems to try and create discord by saying that a witch hunt against Nazis is perfectly fine because Nazis are shit. And anyone against a witch hunt of Nazis means they are a Nazi. Well, I’m against all kind of witch-hunts because they are based on accusing whoever just out of hatred with very little way of fighting against it fairly.

    Or to explain my meaning in a different way. I’m against the death penalty. That means that I don’t want any form of legal death penalty, even if someone is a Nazi. Does that mean now that I treat Nazis too nicely? I can see and understand that someone disagrees with me and I would disagree with someone proposing the death penalty for nazis. They can call me a Nazi then I guess? Just because I’m against the death penalty? I’m not against the death penalty to defend Nazis, I’m just against the death penalty. This post is in my opinion just shit trying to ragebait. I don’t see who could benefit from it, but surely there are possible reasons for it.



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    There’s a logic flaw in this post and that makes me feel uncertain if this is just ragebaiting or what… It certainly feels like it, and it is kinda worrisome and sad if we let this kinda shit content drive the platform usage into senseless insult throwing (I’m kinda expecting that I’ll be called a Nazi for not agreeing on what this post represents, precisely my point).

    You can say “fuck Nazis” and I’d agree. Fuck them, hard with a cactus. If someone disagrees with “fuck Nazis” sure, you found the Nazi. I agree with that. If in a conversation someone is defending a Nazi ideology or some clear Nazi shit, yeah call them Nazis and anyone defending them are clearly aligned on that shit.

    But then step two of the image makes no sense.

    Watch for the “don’t call people who disagree with you Nazis” comments.

    Saying fuck Nazis is not the same as calling someone who disagrees with you a Nazi. If someone would call someone a Nazi for disagreeing on some random topic, and someone says don’t call them Nazis just because they don’t agree with you, that doesn’t make them a Nazi. There is nuance here, what was it they disagreed with? It feels like the post is just trying to give way to the fact that if you call anyone a Nazi and they disagree that makes them even more Nazi. It the same shit as accusing someone of stealing and when they deny it you answer with “that’s what a thief would say”. Well yeah, but it is also what a non-thief would say. So it proofs nothing.

    Can’t we just agree on hating Nazis and calling a Nazi to anyone making a Nazi salute or saying Nazi shit or defending Nazi shit? Can we agree that saying “don’t call people who disagree with you a nazi” doesn’t immediately imply they are Nazis? It doesn’t make any fucking sense, and I’d wish to see better content in Lemmy than this baity shit. Instead of this shit, post a nice image that says “fuck Nazis” with a middle finger as decoratiin, and I’m sure you will see less crap than in this post.


  • Indeed, you are absolutely right. But how do you compare what is like another thing? The original idea of homeopathy was more straightforward in this sense, it wasn’t “like cures like”, it was more “if you were poisoned with x, then a solution of that x element in really small doses will cause you to recover”. With all the shit I give to homeopathy (because nowadays anyone thinking homeopathy works has no excuse), I have to admire it just a bit in its historical context. At a time when “actual” doctors were trying to heal people with bloodletting and washing hands was not really a thing before stuffing them in someone’s wound… Someone came up with an idea that actually was causing less damage than the doctors themselves were, and the idea, ridiculous as it is with our current knowledge, is not far from the actual idea of vaccines. We just know that a small dose won’t heal you, but it might make your antibodies adapt and learn how to fight something negative. If you think it through, it is not entirely far from that basic starting point in homeopathy. Of course they took it to the limit and then became bullshit. I don’t remember who am I quoting but here goes “the alternative medicine that has been proven to work has a name, medicine” (I’m paraphrasing, can’t remember the exact wording, but I’m thinking maybe it was the amazing Tim Minchin in one of his songs/acts?)

    From that point it all went to shit and homeopathy became completely absurd because they started loosening the concepts. “Like cures like” ends up working as “I’ll make some shitty comparison and because it kinda works because I say so, it is similar and will cure you”.

    Which is how you end up with the real fun stuff in homeopathy. I’ll be talking from memory from many years ago, so take this with a grain of salt, maybe those products where fringe stuff but I’m pretty sure they were all real and sold.

    Are you feeling stuck? Maybe when you are working on something? Maybe your stomach? Maybe you are stuck in a bad relationship? Don’t worry, here’s the amazing homeopathy remedy, a dilution of pieces of the wall of Berlin. If they managed to break through, why wouldn’t you? (yes, there is a homeopathic remedy based on the wall of Berlin)

    Are you feeling sad? Glum? Unhappy? Is there an idiom for it? Like for instance “are you feeling blue?”… Don’t worry, here you have a dilution of the color blue in homeopathic pill form. (Yes, there’s a bunch of color based homeopathic remedies).

    OK enough funny shit descriptions because I cannot really see how I can even begin to describe the one based on dinosaur bones. Or my favorite, black holes. Yes, somehow they sell the idea that they have diluted a black hole effect in water… Don’t ask me. I can’t understand it either.

    So yeah like heals like… But when you can make up the comparison it really doesn’t matter.


  • I think I’ve heard more unhinged things that the one I’m about to mention, but the others are from drunk randos making shit up or over sharing I don’t know. The one that really hit me is not as crazy but it still pisses me off to this day and it is far more serious than that drunk guy telling me about how he used to masturbate on the backseats of all buses he could get into.

    I’ve had an issue with my legs since birth, nothing bad and in fact went unnoticed most my life. Just how my knees are built. Never caused a problem until in my twenties I started getting into the gym. A bad trainer (student doing practice) in a gym recommended me some exercise after I asked for something to change the routine. Long story short, I fucked up my knees, even longer story shorter, a doc specialized in legs and specifically knees told me my options, from which the most reasonable at the time was surgery. Surgery for both knees, 1 first, then recovery then the other. A total of two year plan for it.

    Mind you the problem was a physical one about the angle of the bones in my knees. A long time friend of my parents, who works as a researcher and teacher of biology in the university of my city called for whatever reason and my mother told of my leg problem.

    This person decided that it was excruciatingly important to ask that the phone is passed to me, to tell me not to go to surgery. Risky, dangerous, and completely unnecessary, when I can have a completely safe alternative. Take some homeopathy pills they said, that will get your knees fixed without issues. I was so shocked coming from that person… Mind you I was in my twenties, so not an entire idiot, and I knew a bit about homeopathy… Having read “bad science” by Ben Goldacre (highly recommended by the way) and got into a spiral of alternative shit and research on the stupidest things people get into. I even have an official diploma from Boiron that they basically gave to anyone who cared to answer some answers right about homeopathy back in the day and that it was incredibly easy to hack (wrong answer? Click back and you could try again, in fact the points for the diploma were stored in plain sight in a cookie that never got reset, I ended up with like 120 points out of 50, there were only 5 questions by the way). No security needed as it had no fucking value like the rest of homeopathic stuff. Or is it less security means more secure in homeopathic terms?

    Any way, I’m getting derailed, this fucking person tries to sell me into the homeopathic shit to fix the angle of my knees… I was so shocked I couldn’t even answer. Just said “okbye”, gave the phone away, and asked my parents to never ever put me in the same room with that idiot. It’s been manybyears now and so far I’ve succeeded in avoiding ever seeing or hearing of that person.