Yeah it is

The normal police is always bad at finding digital info. You want them to be audited and/or raided by the finance police (not sure how that is calld where they are located)

I was really consufed by your chain of comments.

You stated revenue, which doesn’t say anything about profit. Then you argue that that is true and say that is why you posted revenue.

Which is why I posted the profit or HP of 2024

Link? The only thing I saw was this https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 and this https://archive.ph/quYyb

Both are very stupid, but the moment that you fall in a 2 party system and you cannot agree on statements of the other party is when politics really fall apart.

People will be playing on the man, blaming the “other” party and basically nothing is getting done. If you want to get stuff done you have to find compromises.

The best way to prove you don’t hold any logs is by doing on audit on it.

In the story you explained it would be better to not use a VPN since Dutch providers don’t share your name when somebody comes to them with a list of IP’s.

Thank you for the response though!

Revenue says basically nothing in this kind of context. HP’s earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

Also this agai?

There are tons of reports on this bullshit. Yes he is a moron and an idiot that he posted something like that and that he doubled down on it.

But agreeing with a statement from somebody doesn’t mean you completely support that person. If you want to be able to form good discussions you have to look at the opinions from a person on that subject, not how big of an asehole the other person is. That is playing on the man and is going to cause issues.

Proton was audited last year https://www.securitum.com/public-reports/securitum-protonvpn-nologs-2025.pdf

Idk how trustworthy securitum is, I don’t know them and I don’t know if these auditers are registered somewhere where you can report them if we later find out they lied.

I kinda want to read more into it before I move all my services from Proton, do you have some links?

And do you have an alternative I can use?

it probably has to do with the different rules between the US and Switzerland

I kinda want to see what they handed over. They cannot get around the fact that they need to be able to handover data when legally asked with a warrant.

But I do kinda want to see if it is actually useless metadata or it is just our entire history.