Red_October

So verified by the people who put out the propaganda in the first place. Your source “confirming” the story literally came from Beijing, and all the wikipedia page (Hardly an arbiter of objective truth in the first place) states is that the number is and has been in dispute. The source cited for that section of the Wikipedia article is also a Western source titled “Quelling the People: The Military Suppression of the Beijing Democracy Movement” published in 1998 by the Stanford University Press. Something tells me they weren’t pushing the CCP line.

So basically your “Easy example” just proves my point: While you chuckle about westerners just believing what western governments said, you’re just wholeheartedly endorsing the version of events published by the Chinese government. The west aren’t the only ones lying to you, bud, they’re just the only ones who will admit it years after the fact.

If you fill a safe with rocket fuel and ignite it, the safe is not guaranteed to contain the result.

More factual according to who?

And the Chinese not admitting to propaganda due to the lack of a FOIA-equivalent means they don’t do propaganda?

It’s weird, where are all the people who were saying the launch delay was probably for valid reasons? Where are the people saying that it couldn’t have all been lies because that would just come out in court? Where are those few vigorous defenders of Krafton now? There’s a big plate of shit here and they must be hungry.