Oh yeah true I saw a few of those from mainstream people…

Are you watching vids of youtubers who promote scams?

Elbow.

The only song that’s any good is “grounds for divorce”

It’s true, but as long as you’re aware of it I guess it’s fine since it’s definitely the minority echo chamber.

What worries me is that even here among the “civilized” it’s very rare to see people with different views actually have a proper conversation about it. Most are just shallow and reactionary, they only downvote and resort to name calling.