As a Linux user, horseshit. windows 11 is better for 90% of users than Linux is and anyone who says otherwise is lying out their ass. If a single thing you need to do is from terminal 90% of users will think your product is shit. Why? Because it’s not designed for them. I’ve used ~7 distros over the last 10 years. None of them has something that can compare to the app store, play store, or even the Microsoft store. We use Linux because we like ___. The majority use primary aimed at them OS’s because it is aimed at them, and does it in a way that is easier for them.
They spend millions making sure that “I’m not sure” step can be done with a GUI menu.
None of them has something that can compare to the app store, play store, or even the Microsoft store
There are lots of reasons someone might choose Windows but…this ain’t it. The Linux app managers are way easier to use, require no account, and aren’t full of ads and malware.
In addition to that… I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use the Microsoft store? They all download stupid adware ridden installers from the first result on bing or whatever lol
Yeah, I was going to add that application management is so much better in Mint than the Windows store has ever been. Winget works alright, but you gotta use powershell for it, so “90% of users will think your product is shit.”
Average users are fine on Linux. I set up my parents on it and they are able to launch their browser, email, etc and not bother with terminal. They didn’t have trouble adjusting from Windows and MacOS to Linux.
Only ones who have trouble are those who rely on specific software for work like Adobe or gamers who can’t go without certain Windows only games. But, average non gamer and non professional who wants to just use it for basic tasks are fine.
And depending on the distro like ones with long term support the UI isn’t going to keep changing up on them.
Seconding this. I put my mom’s laptop on Mint because that was easier than supporting her on Windows. She freaking loves it because she’s not constantly bring pestered to sign into accounts, and she has an easy way to get software and features added to her computer without needing to call me.
I don’t know, I installed Bazzite on my parents’ PC and they don’t use or need terminal at all. Same thing for my aunt’s laptop with Aurora. I don’t even give technical support anymore since I installed these.
When I was in the process transitioning my lab from Windows 10+11 to Linux Mint, I was spending more time in Windows’ cmd.exe attempting to debug issues introduced through Windows Update than the Linux Terminal.
I don’t seem to understand what you are saying here. So you installed Mint and were transferring data to Mint from Windows, why would you need to run updates on the old systems at all? I would have imagined you’d just spin up a samba share from Mint and copy the data to it. (Or just use an external drive).
To achieve the first one though my first step would have been to launch terminal on Mint, and install samba (that likely does exist as a GUI install in software manager though)
Files were already backed up at multiple locations. I wasn’t using cmd.exe to transfer files. I was using it to attempt to fix broken WiFi and touchpad drivers.
why would you need to run updates on the old systems at all?
Ah so the old machines weren’t working properly before the move. Gotcha. In my experience Mint has been good at using its defaults to get WIFI working. Hell I probably would have skipped over dealing with the track pad and just plugged a mouse in and let Mint fix that part after. I have been running into the problem that all those mice laying around are USB A, and laptops now seem to have moved completely away from adding one.
All of the issues were caused by Windows. Switching them to Mint was seamless experience and everyone has been happier after the move.
You can get adapters to convert USB A to C. YMMV for that, though. I’m not the primary user of these computers, so I needed to make sure the trackpads were working properly.
Ehh, i agree with that appstore thing and simple to install .exe, but Shelly can basically do most of those now, and that isn’t even the thing that hold back the transition. People still using windows because software dev doesn’t make it for linux. Software like POS, professional design suits, game dev tools, all mostly run on windows. Those people also use whatever the newer windows available, including win8 that most people hated. For gamers? None of those matter. People like me shifted to linux and did not find any difference in everyday use.
Also i don’t really interact much with terminal, 1 or 2% of the whole time using it i think? It’s to both setup auto mount(none of the option in the setting works, they need to fix this shit) and also updating cachyos software, which is 99% automatic and 1% y and enter, to the point i feels like it isn’t even considered a terminal. In fact i avoid doing anything with terminal because i despise it, yet i can use linux without too much of an issue.
Edit: i tried mint+cinnamon and currently using cachy+kde, both have the same experience, and i don’t need terminal to install anything.
You can use Gnome Disks (gnome-disk-utility) to edit fstab via GUI. I’ve been using this for years and never had to manually edit fstab even though I can.
You, my friend, is a lifesaver! Every search result point me to using terminal to edit it, and of course i edit it via word editor and access fstab using file explorer, i only use terminal to get the uuid. Imo it should be accessible via the setting, but gnome disk would do too.
Glad to help! To be fair, a lot of tutorials do it on terminal because it’s consistent for every distro out there. However Gnome Disks is stupidly easy and that’s why I like it. I install my system, I install Gnome Disks, then switch to manual option and set automount for my other drives and that’s it.
As a Linux user, horseshit. windows 11 is better for 90% of users than Linux is and anyone who says otherwise is lying out their ass. If a single thing you need to do is from terminal 90% of users will think your product is shit. Why? Because it’s not designed for them. I’ve used ~7 distros over the last 10 years. None of them has something that can compare to the app store, play store, or even the Microsoft store. We use Linux because we like ___. The majority use primary aimed at them OS’s because it is aimed at them, and does it in a way that is easier for them.
They spend millions making sure that “I’m not sure” step can be done with a GUI menu.
There are lots of reasons someone might choose Windows but…this ain’t it. The Linux app managers are way easier to use, require no account, and aren’t full of ads and malware.
Real problem is the availability of some software.
In addition to that… I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use the Microsoft store? They all download stupid adware ridden installers from the first result on bing or whatever lol
Yeah, I was going to add that application management is so much better in Mint than the Windows store has ever been. Winget works alright, but you gotta use powershell for it, so “90% of users will think your product is shit.”
Some programs’ download link redirect you to Microslop Store, so at least some of them use it either voluntarily or involuntarily.
are you serious? or maybe you just accidentally ran headfirst into a corner of one of your walls?
Average users are fine on Linux. I set up my parents on it and they are able to launch their browser, email, etc and not bother with terminal. They didn’t have trouble adjusting from Windows and MacOS to Linux.
Only ones who have trouble are those who rely on specific software for work like Adobe or gamers who can’t go without certain Windows only games. But, average non gamer and non professional who wants to just use it for basic tasks are fine.
And depending on the distro like ones with long term support the UI isn’t going to keep changing up on them.
Seconding this. I put my mom’s laptop on Mint because that was easier than supporting her on Windows. She freaking loves it because she’s not constantly bring pestered to sign into accounts, and she has an easy way to get software and features added to her computer without needing to call me.
I don’t know, I installed Bazzite on my parents’ PC and they don’t use or need terminal at all. Same thing for my aunt’s laptop with Aurora. I don’t even give technical support anymore since I installed these.
When I was in the process transitioning my lab from Windows 10+11 to Linux Mint, I was spending more time in Windows’ cmd.exe attempting to debug issues introduced through Windows Update than the Linux Terminal.
I don’t seem to understand what you are saying here. So you installed Mint and were transferring data to Mint from Windows, why would you need to run updates on the old systems at all? I would have imagined you’d just spin up a samba share from Mint and copy the data to it. (Or just use an external drive).
To achieve the first one though my first step would have been to launch terminal on Mint, and install samba (that likely does exist as a GUI install in software manager though)
Files were already backed up at multiple locations. I wasn’t using cmd.exe to transfer files. I was using it to attempt to fix broken WiFi and touchpad drivers.
Ask Microsoft.
Ah so the old machines weren’t working properly before the move. Gotcha. In my experience Mint has been good at using its defaults to get WIFI working. Hell I probably would have skipped over dealing with the track pad and just plugged a mouse in and let Mint fix that part after. I have been running into the problem that all those mice laying around are USB A, and laptops now seem to have moved completely away from adding one.
Hopefully the move went well for you
All of the issues were caused by Windows. Switching them to Mint was seamless experience and everyone has been happier after the move.
You can get adapters to convert USB A to C. YMMV for that, though. I’m not the primary user of these computers, so I needed to make sure the trackpads were working properly.
Ehh, i agree with that appstore thing and simple to install .exe, but Shelly can basically do most of those now, and that isn’t even the thing that hold back the transition. People still using windows because software dev doesn’t make it for linux. Software like POS, professional design suits, game dev tools, all mostly run on windows. Those people also use whatever the newer windows available, including win8 that most people hated. For gamers? None of those matter. People like me shifted to linux and did not find any difference in everyday use.
Also i don’t really interact much with terminal, 1 or 2% of the whole time using it i think? It’s to both setup auto mount(none of the option in the setting works, they need to fix this shit) and also updating cachyos software, which is 99% automatic and 1% y and enter, to the point i feels like it isn’t even considered a terminal. In fact i avoid doing anything with terminal because i despise it, yet i can use linux without too much of an issue.
Edit: i tried mint+cinnamon and currently using cachy+kde, both have the same experience, and i don’t need terminal to install anything.
You can use Gnome Disks (
gnome-disk-utility) to editfstabvia GUI. I’ve been using this for years and never had to manually edit fstab even though I can.You, my friend, is a lifesaver! Every search result point me to using terminal to edit it, and of course i edit it via word editor and access fstab using file explorer, i only use terminal to get the uuid. Imo it should be accessible via the setting, but gnome disk would do too.
Glad to help! To be fair, a lot of tutorials do it on terminal because it’s consistent for every distro out there. However Gnome Disks is stupidly easy and that’s why I like it. I install my system, I install Gnome Disks, then switch to manual option and set automount for my other drives and that’s it.