• HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    Are there no anarchist books? I’m pretty sure there are and anarchy doesn’t mean willful ignorance.

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      23 hours ago

      It’s technically a work of fiction but The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin can maybe be considered an anarchist book. It does a deep delve into an anarchist society and how it could theoretically be organized. In my opinion it could also be interpreted as a critique, but I think it’s stronger for it.

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        7 hours ago

        On one hand it is incredibly funny that after such question only two books and one movie got mentioned by title in thread and two of which are a work of fiction, but then again, LeGuin is still better than Proudhon lol.

        On the other hand, this anarchist society in Disposessed is a pretty good analogy in how it is essentially entirely on the mercy of the people on the Urras. Even the anarchist utopia is vulnerable. Also for some weird reason Anarres seems to represent USSR since it existence means states on Urras are giving workers some rights, analogically to Western Europe building social nets.

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      23 hours ago

      There’s plenty, and they can help, but you ain’t gotta read em. They’re guides and ideas. Nobody ever told me I needed to read Proudhon to think the state’s bad, and usually older texts become more of historical interest than theory interests. When I wanted to understand anarchism I was told to go out and engage in praxis.

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        Nobody ever told me I needed to read Proudhon to think the state’s bad

        Yeah, cause if you actually read Proudhon, you’d probably lose interest in anarchism after realizing how unserious and idiotic the arguments and methodology of “the father of Anarchism” were.

        Further reading: The Poverty of Philosophy (Part three has the funniest blunders of Mr. Proudhon, if you’re looking for highlights).

        I guess I did the meme and told you to read.

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        22 hours ago

        Fully agree that that’s the way to learn. Do praxis, theory will develop.

        However, I recommend the bread book to anyone I think might enjoy reading something like it. It changed my life fundamentally to see some one lay out the math of how a society could function like that. As suggested above,nthe dispossessed is also an amazing work of theory disguised as a very fun sci fi read. I routinely quote “where do you go when you die in hell” ever since reading it

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          19 hours ago

          The Dispossessed hit me like a truck, but I wouldn’t call it theory. It’s political fiction that’s subtle about it by using sci fi, but I think calling it anything but a novel/fiction does a disservice to such literature. It does that which all message based fiction aspires to: lies to you in a way that makes you think about the world and see everything differently. I love all of LeGuinn’s books that I’ve read, though I felt Omelas was overrated. I’ll also plug Graeber for easily accessible theory written in modern language for modern life. Bullshit jobs hit hard.

          And yeah, theory matters, but only if you do praxis. Do the hungry care more about who you feed them, or that you feed them? Do your coworkers dream of a dictatorship of the proletariat or do they just want their voice heard in the workplace? If all you do is read theory, you’re a book club. The least you could do is mail some dictionaries and whatever other books to prisoners while you discuss the theory. Offer them some zines while you’re at it. What is in your heart and your mind are irrelevant until your actions reveal them.

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            17 hours ago

            Well said! And yeah, I was a little heavy handed calling the dispossessed theory. However:

            Do the hungry care more about who you feed them

            The rich!

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      21 hours ago

      There are, and like any social/political group it’s not a monolith but has plenty of various subsections that would broadly be called “anarchist” but aren’t themselves all in agreement (and at times accuse others of not being “real” anarchists). This watered down meme is just [insert political group here] Utopianism jingoism. Of course people tend to help each other that are like them, leftists tend to be more likely to help outside their tribal communities, but the extent to how much they help and under what circumstances is not blind enabling. If I see a person drowning I’m not going to ask who they voted for before helping. If I see some Trumper with a flat tire… fix it yourself, asshole.

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      20 hours ago

      Being on the receiving end of crowd control munitions is certainly a better education then any book.

      If you’re curious about theory there’s tons of alternatives to books: podcasts, film, public speeches, community training/workshops, etc.

      My suggestion is Women’s War by Robert Evans on Behind the Bastards. I also suggest pretty much anything on https://channelzeronetwork.com/

      If someone just shows up and participates with an open mind they’re doing more than most. Anyone who would gatekeep because you didn’t read such and such text should be promptly told to fuck right off because that’s a caustic hierarchical bullshit appeal to false authority and kills engagement.

      If you need a (text)book try The Ecology of Freedom - Bookchin. You could probably find other books here too https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-the-ecology-of-freedom

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        18 hours ago

        If you’re curious about theory there’s tons of alternatives to books: podcasts, film

        Lol

        Robert Evans

        LOL