Protests don’t have to be about intimidating anyone. They’re important as a tool for letting other people, who might also want to resist, know that they are not alone. I’m guessing based on your phrasing that you aren’t from the US, so I’m going to assume you aren’t familiar with how things work over here. It’s a big country, in terms of landmass. The US is almost as large as the entirety of Europe (~3.5m sq. miles vs. ~3.9m sq. miles.) It’s essentially impossible to coordinate anything over that large an area, especially considering how spread out everything is. Organized protests like the No Kings events, though, present a unified front across the country, and let everyone know that people everywhere feel the same way they do, and even though they might only have immediate contact to their local community, the resistance is much larger than that.
“Standing up to our oppressors” is also more difficult than you seem to think. It’s really easy to sit there behind a keyboard in another part of the world and type big words, but it’s a lot harder to commit to an armed resistance that will, in all likelihood, result in dying. The US military is huge, and mega-funded. Local law enforcement is very likely to be on the establishment’s side. They’re all armed and don’t hesitate to quash even peaceful resistance with violence. How do you think it’s going to go when someone starts shooting back?
For a true resistance to be effective, it needs to be organized and coordinated, and that’s simply very difficult to accomplish. I certainly don’t know how to do it. Do you?
Or are you just advocating for people to go die in ineffectual attempts to assassinate government officials?
My takeaway is that you haven’t convinced me. I know you feel different, but I believe you to be wrong. There is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise because I have reality as evidence.
The United States is heading to an inevitable and irreversible state of decay. It’s going to make the fall of the USSR look like a party.
You can block your eyes and ears all you want…… it doesn’t make your words correct.
You offer no solutions, suggestions, or even counter-points - only negativity and nay saying. Frankly, that makes me not really give a shit about your opinion.
There is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise because I have reality as evidence.
Then there’s especially no point in discussing this further with you.
Minnesota had an election while under occupation by ICE and Border Patrol. They went out to vote while their neighbors were being shot in the street. Guess who won?
It’s not ever going to be “over” then, so… what’s your point? The current United States is done for. Whatever comes out of the ashes wont be for decades. Just expect USSR style fallout, but significantly worse and far more bloody.
Every representative government follows the same formula, though overthrow of a monarch, to stages of oligarchic repression, to a true leader coming along and laying waste to that oligarchy, there are no exceptions in history. Let’s make it happen.
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Protests don’t have to be about intimidating anyone. They’re important as a tool for letting other people, who might also want to resist, know that they are not alone. I’m guessing based on your phrasing that you aren’t from the US, so I’m going to assume you aren’t familiar with how things work over here. It’s a big country, in terms of landmass. The US is almost as large as the entirety of Europe (~3.5m sq. miles vs. ~3.9m sq. miles.) It’s essentially impossible to coordinate anything over that large an area, especially considering how spread out everything is. Organized protests like the No Kings events, though, present a unified front across the country, and let everyone know that people everywhere feel the same way they do, and even though they might only have immediate contact to their local community, the resistance is much larger than that.
“Standing up to our oppressors” is also more difficult than you seem to think. It’s really easy to sit there behind a keyboard in another part of the world and type big words, but it’s a lot harder to commit to an armed resistance that will, in all likelihood, result in dying. The US military is huge, and mega-funded. Local law enforcement is very likely to be on the establishment’s side. They’re all armed and don’t hesitate to quash even peaceful resistance with violence. How do you think it’s going to go when someone starts shooting back?
For a true resistance to be effective, it needs to be organized and coordinated, and that’s simply very difficult to accomplish. I certainly don’t know how to do it. Do you?
Or are you just advocating for people to go die in ineffectual attempts to assassinate government officials?
So you’re saying you can’t contemplate a way to make protests work. Got it. I agree.
Thank you for inadvertently proving my point.
I hope you have the day you’re willing to fight for.
Well, if that’s your takeaway from all that, I guess there’s very little point in trying to discuss this further with you.
My takeaway is that you haven’t convinced me. I know you feel different, but I believe you to be wrong. There is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise because I have reality as evidence.
The United States is heading to an inevitable and irreversible state of decay. It’s going to make the fall of the USSR look like a party.
You can block your eyes and ears all you want…… it doesn’t make your words correct.
You offer no solutions, suggestions, or even counter-points - only negativity and nay saying. Frankly, that makes me not really give a shit about your opinion.
Then there’s especially no point in discussing this further with you.
You offer no solution. I have a solution but we both know you won’t agree with it… so why bring it up?
there is nothing I can say to convince you
So there is especially no point in discussing this further with you.
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Well said. The question is how do we fix it? I know. But I can’t do it myself.
Only one way to fix it.
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Everyone should stop working, march on Washington and Mar-a-Lago, and tear everyone limb from limb until it’s just a bloody mess
There are only 3 choices now that voting and protesting have proven ineffective:
Fight
Leave
Accept
Which one are you?
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Alt
That’s clearly fighting. I’m not an alt.
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Throw our lives away in a useless action? Not so good advice.
Minnesota had an election while under occupation by ICE and Border Patrol. They went out to vote while their neighbors were being shot in the street. Guess who won?
And that winning has changed what for the direction of the country? Nothing.
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People with attitudes like yours should never express themselves. What a shitbag.
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Yeah, using your own words against you is brilliant. Go back to your magat life and get ready to never vote again.
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I’m leaving the country. So, I’ll be voting just fine.
Enjoy the New American Dream.
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piss off it aint over yet.
What do you think is going to happen from here on out. Realistically.
I can’t say, it’s not good. But it’s not over either.
It’s not ever going to be “over” then, so… what’s your point? The current United States is done for. Whatever comes out of the ashes wont be for decades. Just expect USSR style fallout, but significantly worse and far more bloody.
Booo. A true leader will emerge from the ashes and lay waste to the oligarchy, as prophecized by plato.
Haha. That sounds plausible. Let’s bet the farm!
Every representative government follows the same formula, though overthrow of a monarch, to stages of oligarchic repression, to a true leader coming along and laying waste to that oligarchy, there are no exceptions in history. Let’s make it happen.
I’m not concerned with 100 years from now.