Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.

“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.

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    Nope. I mean the name is there, but this is so easily traced to the grift that one has to really do some mental gymnastics to say it’s even a religion much less a Christian one.

    How often did Jesus teach about how dark skin was a curse from God?

    The bible was a building block to the grift of Smith, that is all.

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      You’re twisting definitions. “Religion” is a widely applicable term, and just because somebody is doing something bad with a religion doesn’t invalidate its taxonomy.

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        No I am not twisting definitions. I am saying it’s easy to see that this one has nothing to do with the religious premise it jumped on and everything to do with grift.

        They might all be grifts, but this one is explicitly easy to see that they just jumped someone else’s train. And therefore it is nothing to do with the other various sects.

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      How often did Jesus teach about how dark skin was a curse from God?

      Way more often than mainstream Christianity wants to admit. It’s literally the root of white supremacy…but that’s not a popular subject among the modern Christians.

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          Start here and scroll down to the Christianity subtitle. It starts with the curse of Cain. I was taught this growing up, and it’s the basis of white Christians sidelining brown and black people within the church. Also, remembering that Christianity is a white religion that was pushed on slaves in America…and then sidelined outside of it by the same damn people!

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              Correct. It’s in Genesis. The common mistake a lot of Christian apologists make is to simply dismiss the Old Testament unless it serves them (gay references).

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                How often did Jesus teach about how dark skin was a curse from God?

                That’s what you responded to and you just admitted your original answer was bullshit. They didn’t say “Christianity” they said “Jesus.”

                People dismiss a lot of the Old Testament because it’s largely irrelevant since Jesus “died for our sins” and we stopped paying attention to a lot of the laws from back then like wearing clothes of many different types of fibers or men shaving their beards.

                As someone who was raised Christian but is an atheist now, but even with all the crazy bullshit I dealt with in the sect I was raised in, the mark of Cain was never connected to race.

                But it’s dismissed because a lot of the Old Testament literally doesn’t matter now. Modern Christian’s don’t sacrifice lambs to God, because Jesus was the sacrifice for everyone. It’s not dismissed by apologists, it’s also dismissed by many mainline Christian sects (Catholicism respects the Old Testament more than protestant churches). The Old Testament is the history, and is similar to the Jewish texts it was pulled from, so only the New Testament really matters in the larger picture of Christianity.

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                  I’m not trying to deceive anyone here. I’m also an atheist after being raised evangelical. I allow carry it further in that I’m anti-religion.

                  I dismiss the entire Bible, not just the OT.

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                    Look man if you want to reddit atheist this shit so you can feel like the most atheist atheist that ever atheist’d, find someone else to act superior to.

                    You literally lied when you answer the question (the teachings of jesus isn’t the same as the whole bible and you fucking know it), and now you’re doubling down your answer even though now you’re saying you dismiss it all… but earlier it was Christian apologists who dismissed it? Make up your fucking mind and stop jerking yourself off.

                    The reason I hate other atheists is they do the same shit Christians do by putting themselves on a pedestal for being clever enough to figure out there isn’t a god like there aren’t fucking millions of us who figured out throughout fucking human history you’re not fucking special. We’re no better than animals, we’re just a bunch of monkeys flinging shit at each other, and we’re not more “rational” or “logical” than Christians we’re beasts of emotion as well.

                    So take the attitude and toss it.

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            The scripture itself does not in any way imply that the mark of Cain was dark skin and your link doesn’t argue otherwise.

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              It is/was a commonly held belief among Christians for quite some time, and the link explains that and which scripture it derived from.