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I left during the first Trump presidency. Best decision given the circumstances.
🙋♂️ I left in 2025. It’s great! Walkable and bikeable cities, affordable groceries, my health insurance actually pays for stuff, there’s public transit, the food is safer, and not absolutely every I do funnels into only 12 companies.
I moved my family. When my kid needs higher education, it won’t cost more than our home. I can send him out in the streets without worrying he’ll be hit by a truck going 80. Active shooter or intruder drills aren’t a phenomenon in his school.
I only wish we could have done it sooner.
Where did you move?
Netherlands
Nice! Welkom! Have fun being there, visit us sometime (Germany).
I was watching a show called Pernille the other week, takes place in Norway, and I thought her youngest daughter was 14/15. She was 12 and walking all over the place. That freedom is just something the States doesnt have. my Son is 12, if I let him walk to the store (crossing a busy 45mph+ road) the cops could get called on me.
My kid is 11 and gets to bike to school, or walk to music lessons or the store whenever. It’s pretty cool
The promised land. I’ve lived there before, and I plan on moving back some day. It’s amazing.
Nunya
Nunya, Nigeria?
Where they started Nunya Business, which is obscenely wealthy. However, there’s a fantastic opportunity where they need an enterprising foreigner like yourself to agree to handle a bank transfer processing fee and hold on to all their assets before the government takes it all and. . .
If things don’t turn around soon, I don’t see any other option.
Can confirm.
I wish I could as well. I’d be out of here in a heartbeat. I’m already single, live alone, work remotely in the tech sector. It would be nothing for me to pick up and leave. It’s just not that easy to be able to move to a different country.
much easier in your circumstance, than it would be for so many of us.
I remember last time I checked, my score was only like 350 which is far below what you need to be considered for permanent residency in Canada. Canada would be my country of choice in this situation.
I did exactly that, there’s tons of resources for digital nomads. AMA?
Boat?
Wish I was rich enough to do the same.
You don’t need a ton of money to do so if you’re unskilled labor, and basically only a plane ticket if you’re skilled labor. Contact people in perspective countries and ask about it. Japan is great if you want to start a small business, especially if it brings in USD. Vietnam is great if you want to be a white face for an english school, China is great if you have a degree in teaching, I’ve a couple friends who went to Germany (not from the US tho) for nursing and IDK what else.
Not just a plane ticket. You need to take into account visas (can’t just fly in as a tourist and start working), employer sponsorships, temporary accommodation and living expenses until you get paid, and other kinds of expenses.
And don’t forget that you still have to pay US income taxes on income earned overseas! 🙄
If you spend 330 days in non-US countries and pay tax somewhere else, you qualify for the FEITE on the first 130K+housing.
Not really almost everyone has reciprocal tax agreements. You have to file but you deduct all the taxes you’ve paid the local country.
Depends on exactly what you’re doing. If you’re starting a business in Japan for example, it’s fine for the duration of your tourist visa, then you have to leave and apply for a business visa, if you’re doing it in China, or Vietnam, you have to reenter on a business visa. It’s very common to arrange business sponsorships in person in Vietnam on a tourist visa then reenter. IDK about China. Temporary accommodation and living expenses can be extremely cheap compared to the US if you don’t mind sleeping in a hostel and eating street food.
But yes I didn’t bother to include non-monetary things you’d need to set up, such as employer sponsorships.
If I somehow found a way to leave, it certainly wouldn’t be to Japan. They’re just starting the same rise to fascism.
Fair.
Welcome to the world!
I don’t even know where I would go at this point if I was picking up stakes.
It’s a little bit easier to make the decision (given the opportunity) when your country wants to genocide you and your friends.
I made the decision November 2024. No regrets, just a lot of tears and sweat
If you don’t mind sharing: where to?
If you do mind, I definitely understand.
Still no housing
Hmm, and where are they leaving to? Who will welcone USA citizens?
Is it maga or non-maga who is leaving?
So many questions…
If magas are leaving, they’re going to Russia to flee “wokeness” and serving a “glorious purpose” as meat cushions trained to waste Ukrainian ammunition.
This is too insane to make up.
It’s primarily non-maga, with a heavy dose of scientists, engineers, and doctors. There’s no reason for maga to leave, this is what they’ve wanted their whole lives
Read the article?
Crazy talk.
I felt very welcome in China and Vietnam. Japanese people tend to be a little colder, but theres a huge us immigrant community here for a reason.
My comment may have sounded negative, and it wasn’t intended.
I’m glad for the positive response /tone.
We need more positive news 👍😀
Rats leaving a sinking ship
More like passengers recognizing there’s another ship that offers more to life as long as you’re ok with lower salary and higher taxes. Life seems to be better and it is.
Yeah well… You gotta be able to afford to leave…
Username does not completely check out in this case.
Atlantis west is not sinking…
