I mean the whole context of this discussion is a mainstream western publication explaining how Russian army is far ahead of the west. But hey, you obviously know better being the armchair general that you are. Meanwhile, do tell what the Mali situation is like, this ought to be good. The fact that you’re cheering for the terrorists here does say everything we need to know about you as a person.
Never said I was cheering for them, said that you might want to look I to the situation again since you suggested Russia had it all under control. Would you like to try again to equate my character with me saying one of your points was mistaken? Again, doesn’t mean I support one side or the other I know critical thinking is hard.
Also no, this comment was in context of you saying “the area taken isn’t as bad as the NATO trolls make it out to be” and then going on to say that “western backed” insurgents in Mali aren’t doing great and Russia is championing the situation (which is not true).
Which is it though really. Is the west weak and going to collapse or are they causing instability all the time and need to be taken out?
Also gotta love the mental gymnastics
“Actually Russia is going great in Mali!!!”
“You should look into that again the situation has changed”
“I can’t believe you support and are cheering for the terrorists!!!”
Shit like that is why people think your proganda is insane. Anything that contradicts a compelte victory is cheering for the terrorists. That’s like USA playbook shit like how they do with Israel.
You saying that is proving a a point that you are incapable of reading and digesting information properly. Where did I say I supported them? Where did I cheer? I simply said your propaganda piece is outdated and you should check the situation again. The fact that you add shit into that makes me even more aware that you are not very literate.
I did look at the situation, and it is very much under control. But more importantly, the situation is that western backed terrorists are trying to overthrow the government in Mali. It’s very interesting that you would frame this as if Russia controlled Mali. You make it very obvious which side you support, you couldn’t be more transparent about it.
Nobody is even trying to hide the fact that the west is backing these terrorists.
To sum up, you made up a story about Mali that has no basis in reality, and frame Mali as being some sort of a Russian colony to deflect from the fact that all of NATO failed to defeat Russia in Ukraine.
You’re really bad at trolling kiddo. It’s frankly pathetic how bad you’re at this given how dedicated you are to it.
It’s very strange how the person you are arguing with keeps insisting that because Putin says there should be a return to peace in Mali that means things are not going well for Russia. I don’t understand the logic there. Isn’t that what everyone always says when conflicts break out? That’s the standard diplomatic canned response. What, is he supposed to say “we want the fighting to continue”?
So strange how some people’s mind works. Although I don’t even think they came up with all of these talking points themselves. It seems there has been another co-ordinated dissemination of talking points in the pro-Ukrainian media and everyone who consumes that is now repeating the same things they heard, including about how Russia is supposedly losing ground in Ukraine.
They probably had all the messaging pre-prepared in anticipation of terrorists successfully overrunning the Mali government, and now they don’t quite know how to pivot.
Also reminds me how gleeful people were when ISIS overran Syria. It was all about getting one up on Russia, and nobody gave a shit about ethnic cleansing that followed. It’s really amazing how fast the mask falls off.
They had a coup in 2020 and got rid of France. They have not been western involved or backed since. They hired Russia to secure it and it isn’t going well.
Here’s Putin himself saying he wants a return to peace after the situation deteriorated over the weekend. Straight from the horses mouth bud
And no what bothers me is I’m quick to call out my government being a piece of shit. The people who infest .ml are always apologetic and dismissive and downplaying about it. That’s the difference.
Also all of NATO? Remind me again how many NATO troops are in Ukraine? Can you count them? Let’s see it. Sources?
Yeah. Didn’t think so.
And wait didn’t we just talk about territory getting captured?* Oh wait that’s right now we’re back to the “west is weak” stance and “all that territory isn’t as important as they make it seem”
If you look in the mirror and repeat it more to yourself maybe you will actually start to believe it too!
*even though again this isn’t western forces this is Ukrainian forces that are being armed with western weapons. Again, I know critical thinking is hard but if you just tried it you might actually like it.
Also to be clear I haven’t actually found any compelling evidence that Mali separatists are western backed but even if that were true, that’s like Russia supplying Syria with weapons or Iran with intelligence. And you know what, that’s fine.
I think if you’re invading another country you have no business at all fucking being in, that people should try and stop you. And USA is super bad about it we just invaded Venezuela and bombed a bunch of little girls in school and double tapped even. Super fucked up shit.
So of Russia wants to supply then with help I don’t see the problem.
At the same time, Russia should have stayed the fuck out of Ukraine (just like us should have stayed out of Venezuela and Iran) so I also don’t see a problem with the west supplying weapons to Ukraine.
See how that works? Turns out you can admit that your government is in the wrong and an imperialist shithole that values power and resources above all else.
Or at least, I can. Idk where they make you stay on the computer to spout these points. Or hey, maybe you even really believe them idk. Either way, its ok to admit when your country is doing something wrong. They aren’t going to throw in a political prison for it and if they would, then you should consider why you defend them.
They had a coup in 2020 and got rid of France. They have not been western involved or backed since. They hired Russia to secure it and it isn’t going well.
We’re talking about western backed terrorists attacking Mali not the government in Mali. Maybe english isn’t your first language?
Meanwhile, nothing in the article you linked supports your assertions.
And no what bothers me is I’m quick to call out my government being a piece of shit. The people who infest .ml are always apologetic and dismissive and downplaying about it. That’s the difference.
The difference is that you project your shitty government onto everywhere else because you lack the intellect required to actually understand other countries, and simply turn them into caricatures in whatever it is that passes for your mind?
Also all of NATO? Remind me again how many NATO troops are in Ukraine? Can you count them? Let’s see it. Sources?
It’s like you’re too stupid to understand what a proxy war is. NATO is using the people of Ukraine to fight Russia while providing weapons and material support. And the strategy is openly explained in mainstream western media https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
Yeah. Didn’t think so.
Think you mean to say: Yeah. Didn’t think.
And wait didn’t we just talk about territory getting captured?* Oh wait that’s right now we’re back to the “west is weak” stance and “all that territory isn’t as important as they make it seem”
No, we’re talking about a war of attrition where the goal is the destruction of the enemy army. Which is precisely what’s happening as Ukrainians themselves openly admit https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1161659.html
“We believe that it is important that everything in the country returns to a peaceful, stable course as soon as possible,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists during a press briefing.
Sure doesn’t read that they have it under control. Again, you don’t seem to actually process information very well. That’s not something I’m equipped to help you with.
And no I’m capable of actually seeing things the way they are and not just lapping up whatever my government gives me to eat from their lap.
Sure a proxy war just like how it is now in Iran with Russia helping them. But if USA conquered Iran (dountful) then it wouldn’t be fair to say that “all of the entire Russian federation couldn’t even stop them” because by definition a proxy war is a war using two other parties. So you saying “all of NATO is getting defeated in Ukraine” again, this is an example of illiteracy. You yourself claim to know what a proxy war is, so you should know that it doesn’t include one single NATO boot on the ground.
Which is it, a proxy war or a war that NATO is fighting? You guys go back and forth with your points a lot.
Sure doesn’t read like Mali is collapsing. What it actually reads like is that there’s a terrorist attack that’s being dealt with. Seems like you’re projecting your hopes and dreams here.
A war of attrition is about industry and logistics. We have NATO using Ukrainians to fight with western weapons going against Russia here. And the situation is that Russia is now outproducing all of NATO. That’s all of NATO getting defeated. NATO failed to accomplish their goals in the proxy war.
Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means. I’m so sorry you’re a victim of western education system.
A war instigated by a major power that does not itself participate.
Where does that say they have to have control of the government? You were SO QUICK to act like you were some authority on the subject and knew what it meant. I’m disappointed.
I know I know, it sucks to not be literate bro. You can get help though.
Also no a defense spokesperson pleading for peace to return to a region isn’t a sign that “they have the situation full under control” like you said. I know I know, comprehension sucks.
For future though you might want to actually know what these words mean before you fight ideologically about them. But I mean that’s just the way normal thinking people do it. You do you.
I would hate to be so blinded by my ignorance that I don’t even know what the words mean I fight others about. And then go so far as to try and make up a definition for it on top! Embarrassing.
I love how you had to run to look up what proxy war means in the dictionary. The key aspect of a proxy war is that it’s a country being used by another as a proxy to fight their adversary. Please do explain how this is the case with Iran and Russia. I’ll wait.
It’s truly amazing how you reach new levels of imbecility with each and every comment. I just can’t wait what brain droppings you’re going to leave here next.
I mean the whole context of this discussion is a mainstream western publication explaining how Russian army is far ahead of the west. But hey, you obviously know better being the armchair general that you are. Meanwhile, do tell what the Mali situation is like, this ought to be good. The fact that you’re cheering for the terrorists here does say everything we need to know about you as a person.
Never said I was cheering for them, said that you might want to look I to the situation again since you suggested Russia had it all under control. Would you like to try again to equate my character with me saying one of your points was mistaken? Again, doesn’t mean I support one side or the other I know critical thinking is hard.
Also no, this comment was in context of you saying “the area taken isn’t as bad as the NATO trolls make it out to be” and then going on to say that “western backed” insurgents in Mali aren’t doing great and Russia is championing the situation (which is not true).
Which is it though really. Is the west weak and going to collapse or are they causing instability all the time and need to be taken out?
Also gotta love the mental gymnastics “Actually Russia is going great in Mali!!!” “You should look into that again the situation has changed” “I can’t believe you support and are cheering for the terrorists!!!”
Shit like that is why people think your proganda is insane. Anything that contradicts a compelte victory is cheering for the terrorists. That’s like USA playbook shit like how they do with Israel.
You saying that is proving a a point that you are incapable of reading and digesting information properly. Where did I say I supported them? Where did I cheer? I simply said your propaganda piece is outdated and you should check the situation again. The fact that you add shit into that makes me even more aware that you are not very literate.
Perhaps English isn’t your first language?
I did look at the situation, and it is very much under control. But more importantly, the situation is that western backed terrorists are trying to overthrow the government in Mali. It’s very interesting that you would frame this as if Russia controlled Mali. You make it very obvious which side you support, you couldn’t be more transparent about it.
Nobody is even trying to hide the fact that the west is backing these terrorists.
To sum up, you made up a story about Mali that has no basis in reality, and frame Mali as being some sort of a Russian colony to deflect from the fact that all of NATO failed to defeat Russia in Ukraine.
You’re really bad at trolling kiddo. It’s frankly pathetic how bad you’re at this given how dedicated you are to it.
It’s very strange how the person you are arguing with keeps insisting that because Putin says there should be a return to peace in Mali that means things are not going well for Russia. I don’t understand the logic there. Isn’t that what everyone always says when conflicts break out? That’s the standard diplomatic canned response. What, is he supposed to say “we want the fighting to continue”?
So strange how some people’s mind works. Although I don’t even think they came up with all of these talking points themselves. It seems there has been another co-ordinated dissemination of talking points in the pro-Ukrainian media and everyone who consumes that is now repeating the same things they heard, including about how Russia is supposedly losing ground in Ukraine.
They probably had all the messaging pre-prepared in anticipation of terrorists successfully overrunning the Mali government, and now they don’t quite know how to pivot.
Also reminds me how gleeful people were when ISIS overran Syria. It was all about getting one up on Russia, and nobody gave a shit about ethnic cleansing that followed. It’s really amazing how fast the mask falls off.
They had a coup in 2020 and got rid of France. They have not been western involved or backed since. They hired Russia to secure it and it isn’t going well.
Here’s Putin himself saying he wants a return to peace after the situation deteriorated over the weekend. Straight from the horses mouth bud
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/eurasia/kremlin-says-its-important-for-situation-in-mali-to-return-to-peaceful-stable-course-/3920644
And no what bothers me is I’m quick to call out my government being a piece of shit. The people who infest .ml are always apologetic and dismissive and downplaying about it. That’s the difference.
Also all of NATO? Remind me again how many NATO troops are in Ukraine? Can you count them? Let’s see it. Sources?
Yeah. Didn’t think so.
And wait didn’t we just talk about territory getting captured?* Oh wait that’s right now we’re back to the “west is weak” stance and “all that territory isn’t as important as they make it seem”
If you look in the mirror and repeat it more to yourself maybe you will actually start to believe it too!
*even though again this isn’t western forces this is Ukrainian forces that are being armed with western weapons. Again, I know critical thinking is hard but if you just tried it you might actually like it.
Also to be clear I haven’t actually found any compelling evidence that Mali separatists are western backed but even if that were true, that’s like Russia supplying Syria with weapons or Iran with intelligence. And you know what, that’s fine.
I think if you’re invading another country you have no business at all fucking being in, that people should try and stop you. And USA is super bad about it we just invaded Venezuela and bombed a bunch of little girls in school and double tapped even. Super fucked up shit.
So of Russia wants to supply then with help I don’t see the problem.
At the same time, Russia should have stayed the fuck out of Ukraine (just like us should have stayed out of Venezuela and Iran) so I also don’t see a problem with the west supplying weapons to Ukraine.
See how that works? Turns out you can admit that your government is in the wrong and an imperialist shithole that values power and resources above all else.
Or at least, I can. Idk where they make you stay on the computer to spout these points. Or hey, maybe you even really believe them idk. Either way, its ok to admit when your country is doing something wrong. They aren’t going to throw in a political prison for it and if they would, then you should consider why you defend them.
We’re talking about western backed terrorists attacking Mali not the government in Mali. Maybe english isn’t your first language?
Meanwhile, nothing in the article you linked supports your assertions.
The difference is that you project your shitty government onto everywhere else because you lack the intellect required to actually understand other countries, and simply turn them into caricatures in whatever it is that passes for your mind?
It’s like you’re too stupid to understand what a proxy war is. NATO is using the people of Ukraine to fight Russia while providing weapons and material support. And the strategy is openly explained in mainstream western media https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
Think you mean to say: Yeah. Didn’t think.
No, we’re talking about a war of attrition where the goal is the destruction of the enemy army. Which is precisely what’s happening as Ukrainians themselves openly admit https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1161659.html
But hey tell me more about critical thinking. 🤣
I’m dying lmao
these trolls just make it so easy 🤣
“We believe that it is important that everything in the country returns to a peaceful, stable course as soon as possible,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists during a press briefing.
Sure doesn’t read that they have it under control. Again, you don’t seem to actually process information very well. That’s not something I’m equipped to help you with.
And no I’m capable of actually seeing things the way they are and not just lapping up whatever my government gives me to eat from their lap.
Sure a proxy war just like how it is now in Iran with Russia helping them. But if USA conquered Iran (dountful) then it wouldn’t be fair to say that “all of the entire Russian federation couldn’t even stop them” because by definition a proxy war is a war using two other parties. So you saying “all of NATO is getting defeated in Ukraine” again, this is an example of illiteracy. You yourself claim to know what a proxy war is, so you should know that it doesn’t include one single NATO boot on the ground.
Which is it, a proxy war or a war that NATO is fighting? You guys go back and forth with your points a lot.
Sure doesn’t read like Mali is collapsing. What it actually reads like is that there’s a terrorist attack that’s being dealt with. Seems like you’re projecting your hopes and dreams here.
A war of attrition is about industry and logistics. We have NATO using Ukrainians to fight with western weapons going against Russia here. And the situation is that Russia is now outproducing all of NATO. That’s all of NATO getting defeated. NATO failed to accomplish their goals in the proxy war.
Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means. I’m so sorry you’re a victim of western education system.
proxy war
noun
Where does that say they have to have control of the government? You were SO QUICK to act like you were some authority on the subject and knew what it meant. I’m disappointed.
I know I know, it sucks to not be literate bro. You can get help though.
Also no a defense spokesperson pleading for peace to return to a region isn’t a sign that “they have the situation full under control” like you said. I know I know, comprehension sucks.
For future though you might want to actually know what these words mean before you fight ideologically about them. But I mean that’s just the way normal thinking people do it. You do you.
I would hate to be so blinded by my ignorance that I don’t even know what the words mean I fight others about. And then go so far as to try and make up a definition for it on top! Embarrassing.
I love how you had to run to look up what proxy war means in the dictionary. The key aspect of a proxy war is that it’s a country being used by another as a proxy to fight their adversary. Please do explain how this is the case with Iran and Russia. I’ll wait.
It’s truly amazing how you reach new levels of imbecility with each and every comment. I just can’t wait what brain droppings you’re going to leave here next.