• CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    Okay, fair enough. But do you think something like this would convince someone not already committed to secession? I can see how it would be appealing to support a narrative someone already has, but do you think it actually convinces people to change their mind on the issue?

    • Doom@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      On its own in a vacuum, no. But that’s why propaganda is seeded across multiple sources over extended periods in places people are half checked out in mentally. It’s the same reason advertising works. That one advert won’t get you, but if you hear a jingle, see a commercial, a billboard, an ad, an endorsement, a logo at your favorite team’s sports park… Ever wonder why your favorite softdrink is your favorite softdrink?

      These propagandistic channels only need to plant the seeds of an idea, regularly feed it, wait until people are convinced the idea is their own, then wait for a counter pushback. That’s when the propaganda really takes root. Just like with Q or flat earthers, they will dig in to defend themselves from anyone challenging them. Logic need not apply. Push back only makes their conviction stronger.

      • CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        I agree with all that. I haven’t been paying too much attention. Has separatist feeling been increasing? My feeling (based on nothing) was that it was static around 20%.

        • Doom@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          Speratism has been increasing everywhere on the right and the left. Rather that’s an intentional divide and control strategy or people organically getting sick of the systems around them - whose to say. I used to say nothing will come of it but then I watched the UK take themselves right out of the EU and found out Cambridge Analytica had a heavy hand in it.

          Also 20% is a big number. That’s one in five people. Every fifth person. That’s a LOT. You only need 3.5% of the population to make a nonviolent policy change, 10% for a revolution against Great Britain. Even if that number stays at 20% my worry is some entity will organize that angry mass towards a goal.

          • CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            I agree, 20% is a lot. That’s why the issues raised by the separatist side need to be addressed, and not just dismissed. Justin Trudeau wouldn’t give Alberta the time of day. Hopefully, Carney will be better.