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    “I never knew the man.”

    “Okay I knew him but only casually.”

    “Okay we hung out a bit.”

    “Okay I spent time on his rape island but didn’t partake.”

    “Okay I had consensual sex with women there.” — You are here.

    “Okay they were trafficked sex victims and it was rape.”

    “Okay they were children.”

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        I mean, at this point? A lot of shit has been redacted and Epstein’s proven heavily involved in longevity research.

        Anyone seriously want to rule out the possibility all those Andrenochrome Harvesting allegations Trump’s team made about Clinton are a confession?

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          yep. Every accusation is a confession when these people are concerned.

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    Ahhh guys, he apologized. I mean, it’s only a bit of foreign blackmail targeting a man with unbearable weight on global tech. He said he was sorry!

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    I don’t clear Gates for falling in with Epstein, but this dude is clearly the fall guy for the tech sector. From old media to social media.

    It wasn’t Gates at the front of the inauguration: Meta, Amazon, Google, Twitter. DJT kept all his Epstein stooges close, that’s a consistent. These folx also are all mysteriously missing from the Epstein files.

    Gates is just the easiest target because Microsoft is the enemy of where The Big 4 want the tech sector to go.

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        I don’t think it matters. He’s most commonly associated with Microsoft, so that’s what people will associate his actions with when they see / hear him brought up.

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      This scenario isn’t really useful as a ‘fall guy’. He’s just one of many, his culpability does nothing to detract from anyone else’s culpability. In fact, his admissions reinforce the substance of the Epstein files and strengthen any allegations that stem from them about others.

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      You are probably right, all of the guys that weren’t redacted were done so at the direction of the president, we only found out about the ones that didn’t make a deal with him, be it to do him favors like sending money into his secret accounts, his favorite type of favor to receive I suspect; and or not telling people the things they themselves know, or the evidence they have, that can implicate the president and his pals.

      That said, fuck them all. Let’s nail these fuckers to the wall, then work and razing and burning the rest. This scandal is the key, it’s not going away.

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        It stands to reason that every single bribe he got was to censor their name on the lists. They knew a year in advance the papers were going to be released, so had plenty of time.

        It makes me suspicious of everyone, like the people of FIFA who gave him a nobel price. Was that also just some show to get their names censored?

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          Yes, but it’s also worth considering that some people might have their own evidence that could implicate the president and his pals, and those people would have their own blackmail, which is kind of why the president hasn’t criticized anyone on the epstein lists, he’s expressed sympathy for them, even as it’s his nemesis bill clinton, wearing a dress.

          If he could get away with it, he would be trashing them, money or no, he’s clearly afraid of what information others have, that if one of them gets nailed on these allegations they could start to release what information they have compiled creating a circular firing squad.

          So if we could find and steal the information from one of these guys, then make it look like that person leaked it to hurt the others on the list, we could maybe start a chain reaction of them ratting on each other, to hopefully reach the king of the rats here.

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      What do you mean by

      Microsoft is the enemy of where The Big 4 want the tech sector to go

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        Microsoft wants you to own a computer and pay for their office app on subscription. The others want you to just let go of hardware and be a part of their AI ecosystems.

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          Microsoft are also toying with renting people cloud desktops they will never own. They’ve already got cloud gaming, and they’re as much in on AI as anyone.

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            They could practically rename themselves Azure at this point, with Office as a product line. Since they have decided to stop naming themselves Copilot at every level I guess. Everything is cloud now with them. Hell I have an Azure VM myself hosting a ton of sites, most cost effective than on-prem for me. Sigh.

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          Microsoft wants you to own a computer and pay for their office app on subscription.

          Windows 11 has been pivoting hard into SaaS and Cloud Computing. A lot of the data center build out of driving indie data hosting companies and hardware manufacturers out of business.

          One way or another, we’re being pushed onto a fully Walled Garden ecosystem.

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          Microsoft does not care about you, your computer or your licence. Microsoft cares about having a monopoly in business applications. By being the only player in this field, they ensure that they remain the (almost) only OS on personal computer. If your work uses Microsoft, your school will teach you Microsoft and you will more than likely buy a laptop to run Microsoft product. And they will collect everything.

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        It’s Capitalism. Microsoft is still #1 in home computer OS un the US. The faster Microsoft falls out of mainstream OS is when the upper echelon of tech can replace it with their own home spying system. It may/may not be personal, but it’s all Capitalism and control. Imagine Meta releasing their own OS - absolute Black Mirror; but if that’s what they’re able to convince suppliers to ship, people will buy it regardless of politics or policy.

        Microsoft has been struggling in the gaming sector (public opinion). Microsoft has been struggling in the OS sector (public opinion). They’re still a giant in the tech industry, but they’re certainly sliding and it’s only a matter of time. Bill Gates being painted as a pedo is certainly one of those nails in the coffin of public opinion in Microsoft and Microsoft Tech (regardless who’s actually running MS).

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    No sympathy here. If he is admitting to that, no reason to believe him on the kid stuff, better do a very deep look.

    He can keep the cell warm for Trump as far as I’m concerned.

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      Yeah, this comes across as admitting to a small thing to try and avoid consequences for the big thing. If we’re already in a place where we’re talking about a man with a life of elicit affairs while spending time around a child sex trafficker, it is absurdly unbelievable that at no point did those wires get crossed or that he was unaware of what he was getting himself into.

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      It’s not the same severity, but it reminds me of when Kevin Spacey was having rape allegations or something. So he came out and said he was finally coming out of the closet.

      It was like, “yeah … okay … what about the other stuff … ?”

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        and then he tried to say he lost his job “like other people” due to covid. most of his ACCUSERS either died, or dint have enough evidence. RAPP eventhough he wasnt succcesful, help “cancel” at the least.

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    The phrase “underage women” is the biggest lie mainstream media has pushed as part of all of this. These scumbags didn’t have sex with “underage women”. The raped children.

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    For anyone that still needs to hear this: there are no good billionaires! ABAB. This dude right here was the poster child for "good billionaires’. I don’t know whether only evil fuckers can become billionaires (probably), but I do know that having access to functionally unlimited wealth and power will inevitably warp your soul.

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      This dude right here was the poster child for “good billionaire”

      Really? I mean he tried really hard to whitewash his image with his charity and malaria research, but he was always a piece of absolute shit and the ‘good billionaire’ label was always a scam: DOS deal games, monopoly behavior, billionaire policy capture through his foundation, education meddling, vaccine-IP politics, nothing he did was truly charity, everything was self serving.

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        I fully agree with you. I been team “fuck Bill Gates” forever. I just mean that there’s a whole lot of people that were jock-riding him.

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      Any good billionaire could donate down to being a hundred-millionaire and live a life of obscene comfort for generations. Why wouldn’t you, if you weren’t trash?

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        a billionaire would never give enough away money to make themselves poor, they are too use to that lifestyle. like a millionaire dont want to be 10 or 100 thousandaire.

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          Being a hundred-millionaire is not making yourself poor or even giving up that lifestyle.

          But yeah, of course they don’t do it: billionaires can’t be good people.

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            ONLY POSSIBLE way is they “DIE”(which is a hit or miss, like for example some med school recieved 1bn+ donation and it gave free tuition, however it allowed the med school to exclude disadvantaged people because they can be more selective(like making the entry into med school harder) or lose all thier money from horrible investments.

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      gates was and is one of the most ruthless billionaires, thats why his sudden pivoting to “helping africa” was all but disengenious, but now it made sense since the epstein files came out.

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        Imagine winning the game. But you have decades of your life left. By definition, you have access to the most exclusive of everything. Nobody ever tells you “no”. I’m not surprised these fucks decide that even the the most universal social taboos shouldn’t confine them.

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          The thing is, you can start to taste that at a much lower level, that’s why everyone tries to get there. Normal people would retire and look to enjoy their life at $100 mill. But once they get that taste, they want more of it. That’s why we put down lions, sharks and crocodiles after they eat a human. Oh, and because they’re not billionaires.

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        I don’t think Billionaires like Gates were corrupted by their money. Rather, I think only narcissistic sociopaths care to do all the fuck of things necessary to amass that kind of wealth and power. Anyone with a conscious would stop much earlier.

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          FYI, it’s conscience, not conscious. Though admittedly, sometimes I wonder if these billionaire cunts are conscious at all.

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      There is more proof of him sleeping with two Russian women than there is any proof of him getting involved with minors

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        If you look at what’s been released, ignores the redactions, and refuse to engage in any amount of critical thinking, there is absolutely no reason to believe Gates fucked a kid.

        Also, if you take Howard Lutnick at his word, he walked straight out of Epstein’s house when he saw that massage table and never said spoke to Jeff again.

        And, of course, Trump was a white hat pedophile who brought Epstein down from the inside. He should be celebrated as a hero.

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        Who the fuck cares? He’s a parasite who directly benefited from the services of Jeffrey Epstein, who explicitly WAS INVOLVED WITH MINORS it was no secret to these people that made their money and got their jollies off directly as a result to some capacity from man who sex trafficked children.

        Guilt by association. Every one of these people who received illicit services from the group kid diddler, should be punished just as harshly.

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      He admits to the affairs, but denies they had any relation to Epstein. He also denies having any relation or awareness to any of Epstein’s sex crimes. Idk if he’s telling the truth, or if he is doing a partial admission to make it seem as though he is not lying

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        Almost certainly the latter. Gates has some of the best PR money can buy. Every damning revelation that has come out linking him to Epstein has been paired with Gates admitting to some less serious transgression.

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    He’s sorry he got an STI from an underage Russian prostitute and he gave it to Melinda, then asked Epstein how to slip her antibiotics without her knowing.

    “affair”. fuck right off Bill.

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      Are you familiar with the documents in the files claiming he tried to source antibiotics for something he “caught” from those underage Russian girls, with intention of also secretly slipping his wife the same antibiotics for the STI he likely gave to her? https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/176578/20260201/epstein-files-reveal-bill-gates-caught-an-std-and-asked-for-antibiotics-to-give-wife-melinda-in-secret.htm

      What a guy. /sarcasm /notsorry

      If we were in a different “sub”, I’d also now post a photograph of a wooden assembly using a heavy, sharpened piece of metal that uses gravity to powerfully remove things from other things, but the mods here have previously educated me to the fact they do not allow that. >.>

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        Yeah that’s fucked, but have you seen some of the other shit in those files? It really is tame by comparison.

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          Agreed, but while on topic I suggest we place this particular admitted offender under the nearest prison before moving on to the next, and the next, and the next

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        Ofcourse they don’t allow that! That thing is horrible unsave. Feels like they invented in during the French revolution and never gave any thought about operator safety. Who knows how many people died because of this thing?

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        Oh, I’m certainly not afraid of a few guillotines coming out. I’d imagine America could Really help out boosting French trade once they bring up their guillotine industry. No one makes them like they do.

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      I kinda disagree, they were probably underaged, I don’t know much about the epstien files, all I know is that most of the people there were preds, minors, etc.

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    “I apologize to other people who are drawn into this because of the mistake I made,” he said. “It definitely is the opposite of the values of the Foundation and the goals of the Foundation.”

    It’s not though. The foundation is a way to spread his influence, bolster his ego, and pay less in taxes. Wasn’t that why he was pals with the pedo kingpin?

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    Bill really nearly whitewashed away all the horrible business practices and cutthroat shit he did in the 80s and 90s with the Gates Foundation.

    But man, he looks like he aged a shitload in the short while since all the Epstein stuff really came to light.

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      He is still doing shitty stuff. He bailed out Monsanto with a big investment, and is a big proponent of their herbicides and proprietary round up ready seeds, and owns, what is it 5 or approaching 10% of farmland in the US to use it on.

      He’s big into geo engineering, trying to get governments to agree to let them spray masses of sulphur dioxide in the upper atmosphere to blot out the sun, totally not a Mr. Burns move. As if he knows the unintended consequences that could result, or as if other countries that would be affected agreed to it, to say nothing of the wildlife, (ie test projects have already shown in the westerh hemisphere it will make africa drier.)

      What else, he intervened in covid vaccines to prevent a not for profit open source vaccine. The very idea horrified him somehow. He seems like he’s trying to do good sometimes and does evil. He has a case of billionairism where everyone around him agrees with everything he says and he thinks the laser light of knowledge shines out of his ass.

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      Yeah, never trust billionaires who are all talk about being charitable and yet their net worth hadn’t even gone down significantly. They’re still billionaires.

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      I dint believe him one second, most because he was obviously using it to do money laundering, he went on AMA subreddit quite a few times too pre-2020, plus his vaccine push in africa was met with criticism too.i always felt he was quite a slimy person. and it was well known rich people like to do 'philantrophy" in AFRICA to cleanse themselves of guilt, or hate done to POCs.

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      But man, he looks like he aged a shitload in the short while since all the Epstein stuff really came to light.

      The photo in the above article is at least 4 years old. It’s used in this Forbes article from Nov ‘21, where it’s captioned "Bill Gates attends the World Leaders’ Summit at COP26 on November 2, 2021, in Glasgow, Scotland".

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/sofialottopersio/2021/11/02/billionaire-bill-gates-calls-for-green-industrial-revolution-to-stop-climate-change/

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    He’s trying to satisfy people by admitting to a smaller thing rather than the worse things he did. Classic PR.

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    In one email, dated July 2013 and written by Epstein about Gates, the late pedophile alleges the billionaire sought to conceal from his wife Melinda French Gates a sexually transmitted disease he contracted after having sex with “Russian girls.”

    The email claims Gates sought antibiotics to secretly give her. It is not clear whether the email was sent to Gates, but he denied the allegation as “completely false” via a spokesperson in late January.

    In his call on Tuesday, however, Gates confirmed he had extramarital relationships during his 27-year marriage with two Russian women.

    “I did have affairs, one with a Russian bridge player who met me at bridge events, and one with a Russian nuclear physicist who I met through business activities,” he said.

    During the call, Gates acknowledged flying on a private plane with Epstein and spending time with him in the U.S. and abroad — but insisted that he had not witnessed or participated in illegal activity.

    “I did nothing illicit. I saw nothing illicit,” Gates reportedly told staff. “To be clear, I never spent any time with the victims, the women around him.”

    Gates said he first met Epstein in 2011, after the financier’s Florida conviction for procuring a child for prostitution, and continued to socialize with him despite concerns raised by his then-wife.

    A physicist and a Bridge player…

    Sure, we believe that Bill, we just need you to answer a few more questions. Maybe some pointed questions about this and a few other subjects. Maybe even edged questions if you will.

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        And he at minimum thought Epstein was a good person to ask about illicit sex-related problems. So it wasn’t just “Melinda thinks this guy has a bad vibe”, it means he would absolutely have known about the conviction for pedophilia. And he was close enough to Epstein that he felt comfortable revealing a potentially damaging secret and reveal he intended to commit a crime against his wife.

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      Gates likely contact with epstein alot longer than 2011, he started trying to “reinvent his image” around 2000 ish.