Because of the ubiquity, nay, monopoly of systemd I always assumed it was miles ahead of other init systems. Nope. I’ve been using a non-systemd environment for a while and must say I’m surprised by how little breaks, i.e., next to nothing. Moreover, boot and shutdown times are faster, and more of that good stuff. I suggest trying it out.


I have. Never had your machine just sit there and refuse to boot because a network share is down? Or because the wifi isn’t connected yet? Or because its waiting on some nebulous thing until timeout…
Never had to crawl through journalctl to diagnose things and wanted to claw your own eyes out in frustration?
You are a fortunate person.
My system once refused to boot, because I deleted a partition and didn’t remove it from fstab. Thankfully it was an easy and fast fix but I would expect it to just boot and give an error.
Right, that happened to me too.
And it’s a problem 100% unrelated to systemd, so I wouldn’t count it here.
If you are having those issues with booting maybe it is because you configured your network share incorrectly? If you are waiting on shutdown timeouts for something then just go edit the timeout.
systemctl edit <stuck thing>.Typically when I crawl through journald it is to diagnose a problem with a specific application. Actually, the fact that those logs are easily accessible in a centralized place with easy to understand commands to access them is a reason why systemd (or more specifically systemd-journald) is so great.
The only times that I have had major issues like that was either because (A) I misconfigured something or (B) a package came misconfigured.
It is exactly configured as default.
I hate thoose timeouts. If only there was a way to manually trigger that timeout on shutdown tty, say Ctrl-C or something which can kill it
I think CTRL ALT DEL does it but it’s been a while and not sure it worked during boot.
Ctrl+alt+del is reboot right? Also iirc that was also a systemd service(ctrl-alt-delete.service?)