That’s basically google’s main business. Their business is not in web search, video platform, mobile OS, email or AI, it’s ad. People forget Google is an ad company, that uses any tool available to give you ad. If it’s free and not open source, you are the product. Either to sell your attention and availability to companies through ads, or to use your data to do profiling, build a more vicious ad platform and sell your data on the side.
I don’t pay anything. Just use newpipe/ublock/smarttube
Revanced and Tubular, for those who want more flavours.
Some of us pay ourselves to install an ad blocker and then we keep our money and we don’t get any ads.
Wait, you guys are getting paid to not see ads??
I pay myself in handjobs.
Why the fuck am I looking at a picture of Will Ferrell and not Ricky?
What’s that have to do with Ricky Bobby?
Why is it a random picture of Will Ferrell though? Why are recent memes like this?
We could just ban advertising.
Like Cuba!
I’m for it.
Any form of advertising aside from maybe a press release to announce a new product/service, and also any form of commissioned sales.
I’m gonna pay you $0 to fuck off (with ublock)
Add to this that companies would prefer showing their ads to paying customers (who have some money to spend), not the free tier plebs
I’ve said this a few times in various places, but I’m really surprised we aren’t allowed to bid for ad space for ourselves to not show an ad the way advertisers do for ads. Obviously a flat monthly rate is simpler, nobody is denying that, but just from a purely “free market” perspective (which shareholders love to say they want while using the government to crush opposition) why can’t I pay slightly more than whatever small amount of money someone is paying to show me an ad to not see the ad?
Realistically I don’t think we’ll ever see that because it’s a fairly complicated. I don’t have any hard data, but I can’t imagine that the majority of users using something like YouTube Premium are getting a “good deal.” Sure, some folks probably watch all day every day and they get the better end of the deal, but I’d bet for a lot of folks YouTube makes more money off charging the subscription than they would showing the ads. Which is sort of an odd scenario we’ve gotten ourselves into (but amazing if you’re a company that serves ads).
Its a good idea but mentally people hate micro-transactions(transactions that are lower than 10cents) so they get mad every time its suggested. Plus its technically quite challenging to process those kind of transactions efficiently.
You wouldn’t prompt them every time. And it would be no more difficult than serving the ads which are also charging every time they’re shown.
No I wouldnt prompt them at all because the costs would be so low. Even if you paid 5x what an ad pays you’d spend less than a dollar or two a week. But people hate the idea of paying half a cent when visiting a website or watching a youtube video because they think they either shouldnt have to or that it will eventually become $2 to vist that blog and $4 to watch that video and thats a horrible future.
I feel like you’re not getting the vision. It would be the same process as subscribing, but money just gets drained from a pool per ad instead of a flat monthly fee. It’s not something you’re seeing a popup for. And it would never cost 5x what an ad costs. It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad. To put that in perspective, ad impressions are bought in units of cpm which stands for cost per mille which is the amount they pay for one thousand impressions. That would be $4,000 cpm. That’s absolutely insane. That’s orders of magnitude more than what it is today. Nobody is ever going to spend that much to show you an ad unless it’s some crazy profitable, super targeted, ultra niche campaign.
The whole point of this thought exercise is to explore what companies make in a month from ads versus what they charge for a month of ad free service. People bid for your attention. I think I should be able to bid for it myself instead of paying some opaque, flat rate per month.
That has to be built by all the people together
Not necessarily, like if it was YouTube you’d just deposit money and maybe set a maximum amount of money you’re willing to bid. Honestly most standard banner ads are from Google too, so they could handle that. For streaming services you’d need to set it up for each individually, but that’s no different from setting up billing for each of them. They wouldn’t need to talk to each other.
You guys pay youtube?
PiHole exists!
Pihole does not stop youtube ads as they are served through youtube’s domains. You need ublock or something like that.
Forreal I use pihole and I get ads. Is bro on something we don’t know about? Why say anything about pihole if you literally have never used it lol
DuckDuckGo player does pretty good.
Having everything connected to the router automatically get ad blocking is great.
I do wish the pihole was easier to use. I don’t think my parents would be up for manually updating it via SSH in a console.
You can access the web client from any connected machine and do it from there.
Also you can save the IP from the machine running it as a local DNS entry, something like pi.hole, so they can just type pi.hole/admin in the browser to access the dashboard
Where do you enter the ‘pihole -up’ command in the web client?
Stupid question, but does pihole offer any substantial benefit over using a remote ad-blocking DNS like AdGuard or whatever?
Please ignore the other two commenters…
Adblockers block ads at the user level, meaning you have to manage the adblocker for each device in your ecosystem.
PiHole and similar DNS based ad blocking technologies OTOH block ads at the network level and only needs one install location to manage content for all devices you have on your network.
This means with PiHole you can have one set of custom rules that block all ads at the network level by using a set of pre-loaded and customizeable DNS blocklists. OR! you can install Ublock on 2 devices in your house and let the other 7 devices that have no access to adblockers (like IoT devices) be subject to the atrocity that is modern advertising.
Additionally, adblockers in browsers can eventually be shut off. See: Google Chrome and Ublock Origin.
Yes but there are public DNS servers that block blacklisted domains. I can set that as DNS in my router settings and it works the same as using pihole as a blacklisting DNS server, right?
But what does a pihole (which is DNS blocking) do that AdGuard’s free public DNS (which is DNS blocking) doesn’t? Of course uBlock Origin alongside them is better, but what’s a pihole specifically doing?
I was pretty specific as to what advantages PiHole has over Ublock alone.
Please re-read the above comment and lmk if I can clarify anything.
He was asking about pi hole versus and AdGuard DNS.
And I was pretty specific about PiHole over AdGuard’s public DNS. And to be honest, the person you originally replied to was as well.
They’re basically the same thing
It’s a good way to dip your toes into learning about Linux, self-hosting, and administering reliable services.
Functionally they are the same though.
Please see my comment parallel to yours.
This thread is about dns level blocking not client side blocking.
Its both, actually. Ublock is client side and only available on Firefox, PiHole is network wide and available for anyone who can setup a simple DNS server.
Yes. And the person I replied to was asking if running your own dns is somehow different than using an opinionated dns service. The answer is no.
I want to set one up someday. I just need to get around to it
Story of my life…
I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.
It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!
I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.
Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.
Never paid YouTube a dime though :)
how can I do it on the tv app? I have a Google tv and and a mibox and I absolutely hate watching youtube on those bc the fucking ads are over a minute long sometimes.
There’s an app for Google/Android tv called smart tube next. It’s pretty easy to install and works wonders. It’s made me use YouTube in my tv a lot more since I installed it.
Exactly. I will pay for things that I want. If you do not sell them to me I will get them some other way or satisfy myself with other things.
“Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”
The very definition of racketeering.
Never given YouTube a dime and never will
Never clicking on any online ad is another goal to strive for.
Revanced on mobile uBlock on firefox
+1 for Revanced. I did the switch recently and I only regret not having done it earlier. YouTube just have too many ads nowadays, it’s not watchable without an ads blocking solution.
Is revanced much better than newpipe?
revanced strips the ads and you can remove shorts and make other customizations. cab also do the samenforother apps like spotify
I just do ublock on Firefox. do I need revanced?
I just use Firefox mobile with ublock to watch YouTube on mobile
this is the way
May I show you the way of Revanced (Manager)?
I downloaded revanced at one point, may even still have it installed. I’ve just found that a shortcut to YouTube.com on my home screen has worked great and I haven’t felt like changing. what makes revanced better?
You can remove shorts, sponsor block built it, window player, background player, can change how the player works (double tap to seek, vol/brightness controls) enable/disable recommended embedded video links (tiles), can make video pause on notifications, sanitizes sharing links. There are 56 patches avail.
Revanced can also be used to patch other software like spotify, reddit, twitch and facebook
if a wanna just use an app, revanced is awesome
ReVanced just allows you to ad block and sponsor skip via the YouTube app on mobile
Brave browser also works on mobile, including playing when another app is open or the screen is locked.
can donall that with revanced and also block shorts
