For context, Haven is a fairly new open source (GPLv3) SSH client for Android.

At first when I saw this I was eager to explore it: there isn’t much choice in terms of open source SSH clients for Android. Termius is proprietary, ConnectBot is unmaintained (but recently has had some new activity?) and JuiceSSH was never open source afaik. Currently I am using Termux + openssh but that’s not great either (e.g. no FIDO ssh key support).

However upon further inspection I am a little suspicious that AI is used significantly for a few reasons:

  • Claude has contributed a few commits (but not many)
  • Some of the markdown files (like VISION.md) read like AI generated text
  • The way the author replies to issues and PRs also reads like AI generated text, with heavy use of em dashes and bold text unnecessarily
  • The rate of commits and new features seems rather high for a single person working by themselves

Are my suspicions founded? Even if the author uses AI to generate documentation and reply to issues, I’m not sure about the actual code itself. SSH access is quite a sensitive thing so I’d like to know whether the client I am using is built with AI or not. Would appreciate your thoughts.

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    sure, but just because a lot of people or whatever think that way doesnt mean anything. you already have that right, there is the code, you can read it… what do you mean you cannot know what’s running in your system? now, where it came from? i dont know about that, i think developers have a right to their privacy and don’t have to tell you where they live.

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      Not everyone can read code.

      From those who can, not all have the same knowledge that may be required to read this specific tool.

      From those who can, not all have the time or willingness to do so.

      Not wanting to use something that had AI input is just as valid as not wanting to use a specific tool, programming language, operative system, or browser, because it goes against your principles.

      Software always had bugs long before vibe coding was a thing, we all understand that.

      Many of us are on Lemmy because we don’t want to contribute to Reddit.

      OP is not trying to convince you to not use tools that AI never contributed to, no need to try to convince him to use tools that AI may have potentially heavily contributed to.

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        i never said anyone can read code, but saying you dont have that right is wrong, you have it… and i never tried to convince op to use software with ai code on it, what i did was question about why they don’t want it. why would anyone not want a specific programming language? electron is a mess, okay, that’s a reason, but i dont think there’s people who despise, i dunno, python because of no reason whatsoever

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          I personally would rather avoid things using precisely electron as you mentioned (yes I know that’s not a language) or javascript as a backend programming language.

          But even if you and I can’t think of a reason why would someone not want a specific programming language, who are we to deny them the right not to use things written in such language?

          what i did was question about why they don’t want it

          Your comments in this thread I read before posting my message seemed a bit aggressive towards the OP but I maybe I misunderstood them. My bad, I’m sorry.