Good catch. I should have said smart phones. Cellphones were around, but think calls/basic texting, no cameras, no internet, no GPS.
It was still somewhat common to not have a cellphone back then, so tracking people was not so ubiquitous as it is now.
Myspace launched in 2003, so it didnt exist. Friendster technically did, as it looks like it launced in march, 2002. Id still say that no, there was no social media of note in 2002, unless you want to talk about usenet/IRC. Neither of the latter were in common use or likely to help assist you finding someone who didnt want to be found.
You keep dating yourself. You must not have been around then.
Phones did have cameras in 2002. They were shit, but they were there. I think GPS started creeping into phones in the 1990s already
I think you’ve mashed 2000-2010 together into one big “cellphones had cameras and GPS before smartphones” year in your head. They were still very basic in 2002, most barely having web browsers.
All of this glosses over the fact that cellphones were not ubiqoutus in 2002, and the ones that people used at the time rarely had camera/GPS, much less any concept of a “phone app” or “social media.” It would have been much easier to “get lost” both actively and passivly back then because you werent surrounded by people brandishing data harvesting/broadcasting devices all around you.
I did not mash anything together. I was around then. Nokia did not innovate cameras or GPS, so it’s a useless example. In fact, I never even owned one: Motorola, Kyocera, Panosonic…
Yes, it’s almost impossible to get lost nowdays and it’s different than it was then. I do not disagree with your main sentiment, just the categorical portrayals
So you owned an uncommon phone with uncommon features in 2002, and youre using this to assert that these features were common at the time?
At a time when only 20-30% of people had cellphones, having one of the 5% of those cellphones with a camera or GPS was pretty uncommon. It means at any given point, less than 1% of people would be able to take your picture, much less post it to the “nowhere” that was social media at the time.
First of all, not “an” but several, and secondly, I did not assert anything like that. I told you I agreed. I was just pushing against the firm “no” and "none"s you were throwing out.
Good catch. I should have said smart phones. Cellphones were around, but think calls/basic texting, no cameras, no internet, no GPS.
It was still somewhat common to not have a cellphone back then, so tracking people was not so ubiquitous as it is now.
Myspace launched in 2003, so it didnt exist. Friendster technically did, as it looks like it launced in march, 2002. Id still say that no, there was no social media of note in 2002, unless you want to talk about usenet/IRC. Neither of the latter were in common use or likely to help assist you finding someone who didnt want to be found.
You keep dating yourself. You must not have been around then.
Phones did have cameras in 2002. They were shit, but they were there. I think GPS started creeping into phones in the 1990s already
Camera phones existed, but were very uncommon. Same with GPS. Nokia “candy bar” phones were the most common at the time.. It looks like 2002 was when nokia first added GPS to its phones.
I think you’ve mashed 2000-2010 together into one big “cellphones had cameras and GPS before smartphones” year in your head. They were still very basic in 2002, most barely having web browsers.
All of this glosses over the fact that cellphones were not ubiqoutus in 2002, and the ones that people used at the time rarely had camera/GPS, much less any concept of a “phone app” or “social media.” It would have been much easier to “get lost” both actively and passivly back then because you werent surrounded by people brandishing data harvesting/broadcasting devices all around you.
I did not mash anything together. I was around then. Nokia did not innovate cameras or GPS, so it’s a useless example. In fact, I never even owned one: Motorola, Kyocera, Panosonic… Yes, it’s almost impossible to get lost nowdays and it’s different than it was then. I do not disagree with your main sentiment, just the categorical portrayals
So you owned an uncommon phone with uncommon features in 2002, and youre using this to assert that these features were common at the time?
At a time when only 20-30% of people had cellphones, having one of the 5% of those cellphones with a camera or GPS was pretty uncommon. It means at any given point, less than 1% of people would be able to take your picture, much less post it to the “nowhere” that was social media at the time.
First of all, not “an” but several, and secondly, I did not assert anything like that. I told you I agreed. I was just pushing against the firm “no” and "none"s you were throwing out.
My dad worked at a social media start-up in 1999, but I guess it didn’t catch on