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minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoIn the most abstract sense: Is organisation without authority possible?
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoNo it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoWhat appeals to you about that text?
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoHow authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoA short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples. Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.
minus-squaretechpeakedin1991@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoEmpirical examples… that you have not provided?
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·27 days agoIt’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·26 days agoProvide a trivially easy example that you can think of (in the concrete sense) and let’s examine it together
In the most abstract sense: Is organisation without authority possible?
In a concrete sense, yes
No it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
What appeals to you about that text?
How authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
A short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples.
Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.
Empirical examples… that you have not provided?
It’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.
Provide a trivially easy example that you can think of (in the concrete sense) and let’s examine it together