• Dogiedog64@lemmy.world
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    It is important to remember that there is no “Good™️” side in this conflict of dipshits.

    • Israel is a Fascist and Zionist genocide state, and has been for decades
    • Iran is a Fascist Theocracy that just recently massacred thousands of its citizens during nationwide protests
    • The USA is a wannabe Fascist Dictatorship run by the dumbest motherfuckers alive, intent on nuking the world order just because they can

    It is perfectly okay to hate EVERYONE involved.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Siding with Iranians for being the victims of an ethno-Fascist aggressor state were over 70% of the population sees them as “vermin” because of being Muslim in the very same spirit as the Nazis saw Jews and Roma as “vermin” and a Fascist aggressor state with a long history of wars of aggression in the Middle East which caused hundreds of thousands and even millions of civilians deaths, and whose President right now is a sociopath pedophile who wants to steal their Oil, isn’t the same as siding with the Regime in Iran.

      Mind you, right now I do support the Regime in Iran to win this war, not because I like them in any way form or shape but because right now they’re the only thing stopping Iranians from suffering the same fate as Palestinians at the hands of the Zionists - a 21st century version of the Nazis - which in a country of 90 million could be a new Holocaust which would make the NAZI Holocaust look insignificant.

      There are very few, if any, Regimes in the World right now which are more evil than the one in Israel and in recent history maybe only the Nazis beat them and the Zionists are working hard at surpassing them.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      • Iran is a Fascist Theocracy that just recently massacred thousands of its citizens

      Do we have an unbiased source to confirm these numbers? Not doubting that they killed people, but the numbers coming out were so outrageous that my bullshit detector immediately went off.

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        I think it was ~3k last time I checked on AP which listed it from several Iranian health orgs reporting both deaths and injuries.

        The 30k that CBS pulled out of its ass was definitely fake though.

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      In this specific conflict, one of them was not the aggressor, so I am still on their side within that specific context. They’re still a horrible regime, though.

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      No matter how brutal the iranian regime to their people who oppose them. It is what keeping Iran as a very old civilization from total collapse and iarael expending theft to all the middle east

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        Israel is doing a war of extermination the worst type of genocide. The usa is responsible of millions of death, hold the crown for the biggest number of coups and wars of agression

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          You could argue they did in losing public support making regime change remotely plausible and then the massacre against their civilians, the upcoming mass executions and a very likely repetition of the unrest had the war not fired.

          It’s a flimsy argument though.

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            If someone made that argument, then I would say that it’s Trump’s fault for pulling out of the JCPOA in the first place.

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      I’d say i don’t care who wins, so long as Israel loses, but thats not true.

      I don’t want any of these shitty governments to win.

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        I hope we see complete economic collapse in the US. To the point where we see ceos and execs, billionaires, politicians, and landlords all ripped from their homes and hung by their necks.

        Hang trump and his ilk from the Statue of Liberty and let the birds and insects deal with the rest.

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      Iran is a theocracy that recently massacred thousands of its citizens, but it’s not fascist in any sense of the word.

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        There are plenty of ways to frame fascism – just compare 1930s Italy and Germany to find sticking points – so we don’t really have a definition everyone agrees upon. I think one can argue that Iran has plenty of the hallmarks:

        • ✓ A leader with virtually unchecked power (until Feb 28th).
        • ✓ A state with overbearing control over citizens.
        • ✓ A state that directly opposes cultural and political liberalism.
        • ✓ Suppression of political dissent.
        • ✓ An exclusivist cultural identity.
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          Out of these only 1.5 aren’t just plain old authoritarianism, and out of those opposing cultural liberalism is just conservatism. As for the other, what does “an exclusivist cultural identity” even mean? Fascism requires a lot more than conservative authoritarianism. See this for a more comprehensive bullet point definition of fascism. While some of these points are partially or fully present in Iran, there’s a clear difference between the Ayatollah regime and, say, Putin’s Russia and Trump’s America (let alone obvious candidates like Nazi Germany or fascist Italy). Even an incomplete and immature fascist leader like Trump exhibits more fascism than Khamenei ever did.

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      I think you are victim blaming Iran.

      Iran was traumatized by the western capitalists. Their response was a theocracy because that was the only way to cope. I can’t think of any other way to avoid the wests machinations. Democracy is a joke with capitalism.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
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        Did you skip over the part where the iranian state murdered thousands of their own people??? Who is the victim being blamed here?

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      typical liberal both sideism, just shut the fuck up dude

      There are 2 fascist imperialist demons both of which are/were settler states. Both have carried out countless genocides in middle east in the name of freedom and democracy. We also know there is an aggressor. There is no both sides in imperialist war. Iranian govt being fascist at home doesnt impact the situation even one bit, its an international crisis not domestic.

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    Great, because Israel’s bullshit we are going to get radioactive fallout spreading around the globe. Time to get some of that iodine isotope that protects your thyroid.