The head of Iran’s parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy said that by providing drone support to Israel, Ukraine has “effectively become involved in the war.”
Zelenskyy earlier stated that Kyiv has already deployed interceptor drones and a team of specialists to help protect US military bases in Jordan.
Absolutely hilarious how you continue to claim this even after I’ve already linked you a bunch of articles showing that industry in the EU is collapsing. My favorite part about your low effort trolling is how you never provide any links to support your bombastic claims.
It’s not, I’ve already linked you an article explaining this. All the industrial niches that were left by western companies leaving were naturally filled in by domestic companies. All the assets, such as factories you idiots left, were taken over by Russian companies.
Oh hey, why can’t NATO ramp up its own output numbnuts? Dumbfuck western politicians kept claiming this would happen, and yet you losers are simply unable to do that.
Oh dummy now admits that Russia had no problem diverting its exports to countries outside the west, which incidentally directly hurts western economies. You imbeciles are directly competing with China and India and their input costs are now lower. That’s part of the reason your economies are collapsing.
The reality is that you’re a liar, and I’m simply pointing out how you have zero consistency.
Literally did see it from mainstream western sources I linked in this very thread, and then proceeded to say you don’t believe it.
You keep telling yourself that child.
Europeans are chortling American balls right now, and when the orange man says jump you lot say how high. You’re an expendable proxy for Americans. Meanwhile, Russia is very obviously not dependent on China the way you are dependent on the US because Russia produces its own necessities such as food and energy. And having energy production is what’s required for having functional domestic industry.
On tiny problem for the west, and especially the US which Eurotrash is entirely dependent on, is that relying on bond markets to borrow trillions works great until it doesn’t. When the government sucks up all the available capital by selling debt it crowds out private businesses that cant get loans to expand which means the economy stagnates while government spending keeps demand high creating that stagflation scenario where nothing grows but prices still go up. Investors start looking at 36 trillion in debt and get nervous if they ever demand higher interest rates to compensate for the risk suddenly the government is spending way more just to service the debt and those higher rates trickle down to mortgages car loans and credit cards for regular people. And if confidence really cracks the currency weakens making everything you import more expensive which is just another flavor of inflation hitting everyone at the grocery store. So the west is basically walking a tightrope where the very thing keeping us afloat today massive borrowing could be the thing that drags us down tomorrow.
That’s cute, now compare that with the US.
Meanwhile, in the real world https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202512/1349491.shtml
I get my information from mainstream western media which, if you actually follow it, clearly explains that Russia is steadily making progress in Ukraine, that western support is fading, and that Ukraine is steadily collapsing both militarily and economically. But you keep cherry picking what your favorite milibloggers are writing because you find it oh so comforting.
And that’s precisely what it’s gonna be hilarious when reality hits you in your smug mug.
You show me some doomer articles from right wing press like they are a slam dunk while I base my figures on actual GDP figures and statistics based on the EUs and Russia’s published financial reports. These two things are not the same, I have not seen any real evidence of EU industry collapsing, you are just a massive drama queen who believes every article they read.
Russia has also not replaced EU companies with domestic industry, they have switched to Chinese products further increasing their dependency on China.
NATO is increasing its weapon output but we are not under pressure to do so as we are not at war. Russia meanwhile drives ladas to the front line with no care for protecting their troops while Ukraine uses MRAPS. For all of Russia’s supposed increase in production it is not evident on the front lines. More Russian fluff and lies.
Russia’s dependency on China is existential, for the war effort and Putin regime anyway. If China withdrew support tomorrow, the Russian war effort would collapse. Russia is not an industrial or manufacturing power and could in no way support their war effort without China. Food and energy are not the only things an army needs.
Always with the whataboutery with you guys isn’t it.
Further emphasising Russia’s dependence on China and vassal status.
This explains why you think the way you do. If that is where you get your information you are weeks behind and are likely unaware of Ukraine’s recent improvements in drone range and tactics that are destroying Russian logistics. Ukraine are the ones taking land now as Russia attempts to recruit more Kenyan mercenaries. Why does the Russian regime keep on turning off the internet in Moscow? This doesn’t sound like something the winning side would be doing. Putin seems worried…
I showed you articles from mainstream financial publications. You dismiss them without addressing anything they say, and then in the next breath tell me that Russian economy is collapsing because some telegram channel told you so. The fact that you don’t understand this is clown behavior is really phenomenal.
Yes they have, and you’d know this if you actually bothered reading the WaPo article I linked you earlier. You’re once again projecting here because it’s actually the EU that’s further increasing its dependency on the US as European industries flee to the US due to high energy costs in Europe. That’s what Biden’s Inflation Act was all about incidentally. Trump’s tariffs, which EU bent over for immediately, only made the whole thing worse.
Literally every article in mainstream western media says that NATO is failing to increase its output, and obviously it is in a proxy war in Russia. The only reason Ukraine is able to keep fighting is because NATO is pouring hundreds of billions of resources taken from its own people into it every single year. That’s why the standard of living in the west is now collapsing. That’s why you dumb fucks have austerity so you can pay 5% of your GDP to NATO.
You keep on coping there dronie. Again, mainstream western media disagrees with your delusions. Here’s the reality of Ukraine. The AFU is running out of manpower, and it should be obvious to anybody who didn’t fail grade school math that Russia has a huge advantage here. Meanwhile, the west is now unable to continue supplying weapons at the rate it has been, especially now that Iran chocked off oil. And of course, since you keep braying about the economy. Why don’t we talk about the fact that Ukraine requires $160 billion in external financing is required through 2028 to cover budget deficits, which peak at $103 billion in 2026 for defense alone. That’s money coming from the pockets of mouth breathers such as yourself.
I mean we’re literally comparing the situation of the two sides of the conflict here. The question is who will last longer. And since you keep screeching that Russian economy is collapsing because of military spending, we have to put that in the context of US military spending with the US being the main military sponsor of the proxy. Let me know if you need this explained to you using smaller words.
It’s called trade, but I guess it’s difficult for somebody living in a vassal state to understand how trade between two countries works without one being taken advantage of.
Weird how it’s the Ukrainians that incessantly complain about Russian drones destroying their infrastructure at scale with Russia producing drones at an industrial scale while Ukraine has artisanal workshops. Again, anybody with even a couple of brain cells to bang together would understand who has the advantage here. Not to mention the destruction of most of Ukraine’s energy production which obviously affects industrial production which needs energy.
Go read up what a war of attrition is so you don’t keep making a clown of yourself. This is frankly embarrassing.
Why do European regimes ban Russian media and want to personally identify you all online? This doesn’t sound like something the winning side would be doing. Kid Starver seems worried…
Mainstream financial publications like the cccp owned Global Times News. That’s state propaganda bud, sure you guys can’t even tell the difference. All of the financial information I gave you, like Russia’s M2 situation are from respected economic information aggregators, the Russian telegram channels just tell me how badly Russia is currently doing on the front line. You seem to be getting confused.
This is likely your problem, the mainstream media is brain rot, nobody reads it anymore which is why they are not doing well financially. I also dislike when people use “literally” when it is not appropriate in the sentence. It makes me feel like I’m talking to a poorly educated teenager.
Financing Ukraine in this war is a drop in the economic bucket, remember the EU economy is 10 times the size of the Russian one. If it is hurting the EU imagine what it’s doing to Russia. There are other reasons for the sluggish EU growth but this is not the forum for that.
Again with your mainstream media, you need to get off Fox news grandpa and get with the 21st century.
I will pay it happily if it keeps the Russian hordes in Mordor. On a more positive note I have found my European holidays more enjoyable for the same reason.
The first of the linked sites you posted, ukrainewarlosses.org was interesting, it seems very similar to the more official .com version but when I looked into it’s ownership I could not find it, seems very sketchy. You should be more careful about the sources you chose to post, unverified slop like this site makes you look like a bad actor.
You then seem to think that Russia won’t collapse because America spends more money than Russia on defence. I fail to see the logic here, you promised to explain it to me using smaller words. It appears to me that you do t understand the fundamental differences in the size and scale of the US economy and the benefits of possessing the world reserve currency. The USA are also only spending about 3% of GDP on this war compared with Russia’s 8%. ( This is discounting the credit Russian banks have extended to the military industrial complex on the orders of Putin as an “off books” method to finance the war.)
China is by far the bigger player in Sino-Russian relations. Russia is also in a desperate starting position of having no other option when trading due to the richer half of the world sanctioning and not wanting to do business with them. If you do not believe that China will take advantage of this situation you are hopelessly naïve. Check out how the negotiations are going over the pipeline going to China, not good for Russia. In economics, in order to achieve the best price it is always favourable to have many customers competing for your product, not one big customer who can dictate terms to you.
Ah so a war of attrition is one where Russia struggles to take ground against their much smaller neighbor for 4 years while their economy goes down the toilet. I was such a fool, I get it now!
This is just yet another Russian excuse for failure. I used to think that an economic path to victory was Ukraine’s only hope but watching them absolutely batter Russia the last few months I’m starting to think Ukraine can beat Russia back to their borders. Ukrainians have a much better and more modern army structure, Ukrainian NCOs can make decisions on the field where the Russian soldiers stand around in large groups like idiots waiting for orders and get cancelled in big groups. Russia is finding it harder to keep what is happening on the front lines a secret so they are running out of voluntary sign up meat.
Russian media ban is because RT is just a propaganda network, why would Europe let Russia beam propaganda in when fighting a proxy war, this is a no brainer and Russia does the exact same thing. You then accuse Europe of wanting to personally identify everyone online, a small group tried and it got voted down and looks unlikely to have a hope of passing. In the meantime we have Russia forcing it’s citizens to use Russia Max government app for all payments and communication, messing up the army who use signal and telegram but are now throttled. You can see your projection from the moon dude!
I know right? This is why Russia is doing it and Ukraine is not, your words homie. I do love our little chats.
Yeah, you’ve been see see pee owned alright. Financial publications like Bloomberg and Financial times. Also, love how you’re dumb enough to think your oligarch owned media isn’t propaganda bud.
Yup, them telegram channels sure know better. Also, don’t give a shit what an ignoramus likes or dislikes. You’re literally clueless.
Ah yes, that’s why the EU is now struggling to approve another 90 billion for the proxy war.
Show me a single fox article I linked lying little shit.
How to say you’re a racist little fash without saying it.
Says the imbecile who gets all his information on telegram.
Nope, that’s just you having reading comprehension of a squirrel on meth. What I actually said was that military spending in Russia accounts for a small part of the overall economy, and that Russian industry has actually been growing to fill the niches left by western companies leaving. I also provided actual sources that aren’t telegram channels explaining this.
The USA is spending on maintaining over 800 military bases all over the globe, and that sure costs more than 3% of the GDP.
You seem to be under the impression that I think it would be a bad thing for China to have more influence over Russia.
Wars of attrition aren’t about taking ground, but clearly you lack cognitive capacity to get that through that thick skull of yours. Russian goal is the destruction of the AFU, and as the site linked which actually explains its methodology shows, that goal is progressing steadily. Once the AFU collapses, Russia can take any and all territory it wants. Just as it happened during WW2 when the front was static for whole four years and then the Soviet army marched on Berlin in months. But I guess they didn’t teach you history at the clown school you went to.
That’s right, can only see wholesome domestic propaganda.
Cope harder loser.
The same Ukraine which banned all independent media and opposition parties. Just how dumb are you exactly?
You really must have a fetish for public humiliation, that’s the only reason I can think of why you’re still in this thread. Can’t wait to see what new drivel you’ll spew next.
I literally say “mainstream media is brain rot” where you yourself quoted me directly below where you say this statement. Your reading comprehension is so bad I’m sure they have a category in the Special Olympics for people like you.
But that was approved.
Whoosh! This one obviously went right over your head. It’s a term of phrase for people who get all their news from mainstream media, usually older people.
Russian industry outside of the mitary industrial estate complex is shrinking. Russia has not miraculously created a successful perfect “juche” economy in 4 years, they have just become dependent on China for all the things they used to buy from Europe, USA and the allies sanctioning Russia. Have a look at North Korea for Russia’s future.
40% of all government spending on the military + the $100s of billions in loans to defence contractors from commercial banks + all of the able bodied men committed is not a small part of the economy by any description.
Laughable that Russia, the supposed second military in the world ended up in such a war on their border with Ukraine.
No shit, you should give Russian command a call, they could really use you!
We can all find articles that fit our own confirmation bias.
There is no sign of this happening though. If anything Russian lines are looking pretty shakey at the minute.
This war is nothing like WW2 though, it is much closer to ww1. The major difference between them and now is the drones and Ukraine’s drone game is currently better.
I really don’t think anyone gives a shit to be reading all of the shite we just wrote, just us two idiots.
This dude gets all his information from conspiracy theory channels on telegram like a true intellectual.
It was not, because the proxy war is going so great that there’s no unanimous agreement on funding it anymore.
The only thing shrinking here is your peanut sized brain.
Less than 8% of the overall economy but keep on braying.
It really is laughable how Europe managed to destroy itself in a war with Russia once again.
Said the troll while having zero self awareness.
You should let Ukrainians know ASAP, seems like you have a better understanding of the war than they do https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/17/volodymyr-zelensky-london-starmer-remember-ukraine/
Ah yes, the guy who thinks that war of attrition is about territory is now lecturing on the distinction between WW1 and WW2.
Can’t believe I’m getting shade from the dude who can’t even read the contradictions he wrote himself. Your argument style seems to involve attempting to insult your way out of the corners you back yourself into.
It was agreed back in February, that Orban fella who previously agreed to the deal in December is now backing out and attempting to veto the deal. Luckily Orban is a lame duck, he will be gone on April 12th where he is predicted to lose the election by double digit points. So long to the fat Russian stooge.
Live in denial all you want but it is clear that there are two economies at the moment in Russia, the war economy and the civilian one. The civilian economy is currently being cannibalised to support the war economy. Sky high interest rates and persistent inflation have lead to businesses in Russia closing at an ever increasing rate.
https://www.reuters.com/business/russia-many-restaurants-cafes-close-consumption-stalls-amid-major-slowdown-2026-02-19/
As you keep on ignoring all of the manpower committed to the war effort and hundreds of billions in equity given to the MIC. Even without that, 8% of GDP is absolutely significant. Keep huffing that copium, makes everything better I suppose.
The same Europe that is yet to lose a man is somehow destroyed. Most of Europe has genuinely forgot the war is even happening. I haven’t heard it mentioned in years, people in Europe really don’t give a shit about the war any more and certainly haven’t noticed Europe “destroying itself”. Hilarious hyperbole.
The Telegraph is a right wing tabloid, they have consistently backed the Russian viewpoint in this war and have zero credibility. The article is also behind a pay wall, I am not going out of my way to read this article that I am sure you have not even read.
If all else fails pull out a straw man eh buddy, much easier to fight than a real opponent. I just pointed out that Ukraine took back 10% of Russia’s 2025 gains in the last month. You then screamed that it was a war of attrition that I didn’t understand and that somehow losing territory is good for Russia? We’ve all been watching Russian soldiers being blown to bits in large groups for the last month. The only country attriting it’s troops en masse is Russia. This fundamental intellectual dishonesty is why Russia are going to lose this war. They can’t even be honest with themselves.
meanwhile in the real world https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-no-deal-90-billion-ukraine-loan-viktor-orban-european-council/
And just wait till Germany, France, and UK have elections. You’ll get a lot more Orbans in power in short order.
Repeating nonsense over and over isn’t going to make it true.
Oh, but you were just telling me that mainstream media has no idea what they’re talking about and only an idiot would take them seriously. Looks like the reality is that you just cherry pick what fits with your narrative here. But let’s play this game. Russian economy is slowing down, how does that compare to Europe?
Oh dear, that doesn’t look good at all.
Nobody is ignoring anything, you’re being explained the basic fact that over 90% of the economy is not affected by this. Meanwhile, the war is actually helping boost domestic economy through contracts that create employment, and require new factories, reindustrialization, steel production, and so on. That’s the whole Keynesian militarism that Europe keeps trying to do, but has no energy for. Keep huffing that copium, makes everything better I suppose.
It’s the most rabidly anti Russian publication that has been consistently spreading Ukrainian propaganda. Absolutely hilarious how you claim they’re pro Russian. Really highlights how delusional you really are.
Imagine being so internet illiterate that you don’t even know how to paste a link into archive.ph, incredible stuff.
Oh, I’m sorry, but was it not you that kept braying that Ukraine took territory and that shows they’re winning?
Now, that’s the actual straw man here because what I actually said is that minor changes in territory are irrelevant in this conflict because it’s a conflict where the AFU is being attrited. There is no strategic significance to the gains Ukraine made, they’re not going to change the direction of the war. But they do cost Ukraine precious troops which it should be saving given that it has a far lower population to work with. But I think we’ve already established that math isn’t exactly your forte.
Weird how the actual casualties favor Russia https://ukrainewarlosses.org/
The site that you dismissed because it doesn’t fit with your fantasies actually provides their methodology. And you can watch a detailed explanation of how the data was sourced here https://youtu.be/LoiP5Rfpmpw
Oh look more projection.