• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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        11 hours ago

        Theoretically that’s how they originate. Enough people need to agree in order to create the institutional structure, and then once it’s created enough people need to agree in order to make it function according to the established guidelines.

        Then there’s another layer of complexity when you get into enforcement. If people violate the critical guidelines and safeguards, those things need to be enforced or else they’re meaningless. And in order for a nation to be “real” it needs to accepted and recognized by enough people, which is another form of mutual agreement. In new nations that’s a bit harder to manage unless it has the benefit of widespread support.

        In the grand scheme of things though, originations of new nations are somewhat rare thing. Most people are born into already-established nations, and live their whole lives in already-established nations, and never have to witness the uncertainty and chaos that tends to accompany transitional periods when one nation dies and another is born in its place, unless that transition is well-managed which is by no means a guarantee.

        So in practice most people never have to think about how to form nations, because most nations are already formed.

        But anyway, what does any of that have to do with what was said previously? I still don’t understand your first comment.

        • ルルㇲ@retrofed.com
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          11 hours ago

          No wonder dictators persist in modernity🤣.
          People agreed one person should owns the means of enforcing “guidelines and safeguards” for everyone else.

          Happy begging!

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            8 hours ago

            What are you on about? You’ve never clarified any of the pseudo-cryptic slush you’re throwing around.

            If you have a point, say it.

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              7 hours ago

              I’ve already made my points. It’s sad you are utterly brainwashed both coercions in civilizations and in capitalist nations are not illegal, but enforced.
              NVIDIA did nothing wrong. Rubio even made it so!

              My only mistake is believing you were naïve. You’ve already proven me you’re a capitalist slave!

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                6 hours ago

                You never made a single point. But sure, call me a brainwashed slave.

                Try putting a coherent thought together if you want people to understand what you’re trying to say. This feels like speaking to a toddler.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Is this your honest to goodness first time receiving critical remarks‽

                  I am fine being infantalized. The whole administration loves children!

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                    5 hours ago

                    What is your critique? I’ve asked you to make a single point and you keep throwing out all these takes about things that have nothing to do with the topic of the conversation, and nothing to do with me.

                    Is that a “critical remark”? Of who, exactly? And why should that be my problem?