US drama The Pitt is similar enough to medical series ER for a lawsuit against its producers to progress, a court in the US has ruled.

The widow of Michael Crichton, who created ER, argues The Pitt is effectively a reboot of the series, which has been made without proper permission or credit.

Sherri Crichton says her husband’s contract included a “frozen rights” provision that prohibited any spin-offs, sequels or reboots of ER being made without his express consent.

A three-judge panel said there are “clear and numerous similarities between The Pitt and ER,” which means the case can go ahead. Warner Bros previously described the lawsuit as “baseless” and sought to have it dismissed.

Listing the similarities between the two shows, the court cited the emergency room setting, the fast pace, use of medical jargon, graphic depictions of injuries, and younger doctors fresh from medical school being trained.

“We find the details here suffice for a prima facie case,” the judges said.

It means the case will now go to a jury trial in Los Angeles Superior Court.

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    This bullshit! How judges going rule this is a reboot. Fuck the judge with cactus. Now this great show will get canceled. But come on better cancel or pay out for every single hospital show. Fucking cunt just like her asshole husband. Hope they fight this and bury her in court fees.

    Edit: wife called it exact comparison Grey’s Anatomy would fit all the same criteria. Why didn’t the bitch sue creator of that show?

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      It’s because the showrunners of The Pitt worked on E.R and were in talks with Crichton’s widow to make a sequel, but the network didn’t want to pay the royalties she was asking for. So they pivoted to making an original medical drama that was very similar to E.R, hence her suing them.

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        Which will easily get defeated when they can point to something like Grey’s and the lack of legal action.

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          Is Grey’s based in an emergency room setting? Does it share key actors and staff? What about Scrubs? House?

          Is it pure coincidence that a bunch of ER alumni happen to create a completely unrelated show that happens to feature the comings and goinga of doctors in an emergency room?

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            I would argue that just because you wanted to do a reboot and then couldn’t do reboot and did something else instead isn’t really evidence in and of itself.

            Star Wars was of course supposed to be a flash Gordon reboot but no one seems to care about that.

            If I pitch a cop drama that doesn’t get made does that prohibit me as a producer from ever having anything to do with cop dramas ever again? I have to stick to musicals for the rest of my life and hope that one of those never gets denied.

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            Valid points that the Pitt should just lean into. “We wanted to do a sequel. We couldn’t come to terms. We dropped any ER (the show) based stuff and kept all the ER medical stuff.”

            Does 24 have standing to sue because they did the 1 hour per show format?

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          “We find the details here suffice for a prima facie case,” the judges said.

          Pretty early there to say it will get “easily” defeated, when the judges have found that there is a credible claim

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      No the judge is being reasonable while you are being OTT. As others have said, there were talks to make a reboot/sequel to ER which fell through and ER was directly adapted from a Michael Crichton script. The key is the same producers went on anyway to make a show that even used a same principle actor because they allegedly didn’t want to pay for the rights.

      The judge has only ruled that there is a case to hear on face value. It may well be that once the facts are heard, the producers and Warner Brothers win. It may well be that the producers lose and are felt to have effectively made the same show anyway, and owe the estate money.

      It’s important to remember that ER is directly based on a script written by Michael Crichton who was a medical student in an emergency room prior to being a writer. Steven Spielberg took the script and developed it with John Wells and the pilot for ER is pretty much that script, barely changed. It’s not some tenuous connection - it is effectively Michael Crichton’s show as much as the other original producers, no matter how much it changed over 15 seasons.

      This is not about making shows based in Emergency Rooms. This purely about whether this show is actually a sequel to ER that has been changed a little to get away from paying one of the original producers estates. If it had not been the exact same producers who were discussing making a sequel to ER, then there likely wouldn’t have been a case.

      The Pitt’s executive producers include: John Wells, an executive producer on ER, R Scott Gemmil a writer & producer on ER and Noah Wyle an actor on ER. At face value that is quite the coincidence, especially when they also pitched a reboot of ER.

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      Nothing of the sort was ruled. There hasn’t been any substantial proceedings at all. The only thing that has been decided is that there is enough of a plausible claim to proceed with a case.

      Perhaps there is nothing there but an ER-based medical drama featuring a common actor and some common show runners and staff. Perhaps discovery will uncover some damning evidence of (surprise) TV evecs being shitty people and trying to screw over creators of an IP.

      Time will tell

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        Legal Eagle has video on it from a couple months ago.

        tl;dr the most damning evidence to the layman is they actually approached the estate about a reboot/spinoff that fell through before all of a sudden the Pitt happened

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          Yeah but if that’s the entirety of their evidence they’re going to have to really hope that they’ve got something in Discovery. Because I can totally envision and utterly innocent series of events that would also result in The Pitt coming about.

          1. Old producers of ER are looking for some work so they approach about doing a reboot.
          2. Talks begin but ultimately fall through and the show never gets created.
          3. The producers are there for still looking for a new show to do so start to come up with their own IP.
          4. Given that they have history in the medical industry it makes sense to make another show based in the medical industry. It’s not like there going to do a period piece or anything.
          5. They write an original IP story based in the medical industry.
          6. They pitched it, and it gets produced. One of the benefits being that it is original IP, and they don’t have to give any credit to anyone and therefore the show is cheaper to produce.

          A logical series of events that lead to a similar show being produced after engaging with talks to produce a reboot of the show ER, but all totally innocent and not evidence of IP theft.