• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    Trump is literally insane, he is a malignant narcissist (psychopath of the worst kind possible) to a degree that he completely denies reality.
    Shame on the majority of American people for electing such a man president.
    I will never see USA as the same again after electing Trump TWICE! Bush was already a huge step down when he was elected for a 2nd term. But Trump is insane, and I can only conclude that insanity is a major part of American society for electing him again.

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      A “majority” of Americans in a heavily gerrymandered system with extreme voter disenfranchisement and removing POC folks from at voter roles voted for him. Only 65% of folks with voting rights voted in the election. That’s around 50 million who didn’t vote because of systemic pressure or disenfranchisement or both. The people who did elect him total around 72 million in a country of around 250 million who can vote. They aren’t a majority.

      The system is shambles and blaming the voters is misguided. It is programmed against the people and towards the needs of the wealthy.

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        You’re not giving any credit to the apathetic fucks who didn’t vote and the dingleberries who had to do a purity test even though it was clearly that Trump was going to go completely fascist with project 2025. Don’t let those people off the hook.

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        This is because many reasons, you see the weather wasn’t particularly good that day, and most Americans have accepte3d the Republicans gerrymandering the vote for decades without repercussions. So it is not the Americans fault that the American system sucks, it’s the Canadians I tell you, the Canadians are ruining America.

        By god I’m so tired of those American apologists, saying it isn’t a majority when the election result was accepted by a VAST majority. And 100% for sure there was not a majority of voters that voted against him. And even if there were, it wouldn’t change that insanity id part of American society today. This includes lack of healthcare for all, and instead having a slavery like healthcare paid by employer system. Also lack of gun control, taking away food stamps from the poor and hundreds of such issues where American society is designed to work in a sociopathic way against the poor and the sick and minorities.
        American society is sick, and that goes way way beyond gerrymandering. And ultimately the American voters are the ones responsible for the system.
        So Absolutely the American voters are to blame. And that even includes Americans in the democratic party that keeps the democrats a wall street party before anything else.

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        Nah. Americans love this shit. Most guns in the world and you just use them to shoot kids instead of bad guys.

        Trump is just distilled America.

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          I’ll go you one further. My vote in my state does absolutely nothing because of the electoral college, gerrymandering, and disenfranchisement. So many many votes against the RNC essentially go into a void. We need to stop blaming voters since it will only further exacerbate disenfranchisement.

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            Trump won the national popular vote as well. The electoral college changed nothing.

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              Moving is extremely expensive, can result in losing your job, and also requires you to likely uproot your social life to do so. Suggesting people in red states move to the few purple ones that are basically the only states that matter in a presidential election isn’t remotely a reasonable suggestion to deal with the electoral college or gerrymandering.

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                Yes and no. Clearly it’s hard to move, but if where you live is bad and has no chance of getting better, don’t you owe it to yourself (and family if you have one) to do better? And I don’t mean to go to a purple state just to make your vote count unless that also bring you a better life.

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      I see you getting a lot of “well ackchyually” responses from Americans in denial, but this American agrees with you. They can split hairs about the election results, but the fact of the matter is 234 million eligible voters had an opportunity to vote against Trump and the majority of them didn’t do it. That is shameful. Every damn one of us should be ashamed of that.

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        Perhaps, our educational n systems, cultural insistence on the individual, so many things are societies failings.

        There’s also the urban/rural split that continues to let formerly isolated people push their ‘not like us’ narratives on through the years, then came the social media scape where that bigotry could be broadcast…

        Big place, big problems, and tough to solve without someone getting riled up enough to start shooting again.

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        Logically you shouldn’t be ashamed because of how other people vote, but there have been occasions where I have been ashamed of our government too.
        So if I was American, I would probably be ashamed too. All the idiots reflect poorly on the rest of US, disregarding which country.
        Problem with USA though, is that it is such an important country for the rest of the world too.

        Rammstein - Amerika (Official 4K Video):
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM

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      when i was young. i was told american are stupid because they vote bush for the 2nd time.

      when i am an adult. i saw americans are stupid for electing trump for the 2nd time.

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      I really need people to start understanding that that’s not how electing presidents works in the U.S. first off, this guy only one the popular vote once, ever and it was REAL close. Secondly, we don’t have mandatory voting in this country and abstaining doesn’t count as a vote, so you’re talking about a percentage of a percentage here.

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        Thirdly you can still buy funny hats that aren’t MAGA.
        Your defense of Americans reeks of desperation. It’s not that I don’t understand you, but it sounds like you are a bit in denial.

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          Denial? I’m living in it dude!! And it’s much worse than it looks from the outside. I’m just trying to tell you that the “majority of Americans” did not, in fact, vote for this. Just imagine saying that about ANY other group of people living under an oppressive regime. And even if it was the the majority, so what? The minority gets thrown to the side because the happened to be here? You have a very narrow point of vidw on this, is what I’m saying.

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        I respect Asimov very much, and USA has always been a weird duality society, a society of opposing sides.
        And there were always problems like slavery, and when that was abandoned extreme discrimination even to this day.
        A lot of the social programs structure in USA is designed to keep the “slave class” in check. With a demeaning food stamps program, and lack of healthcare for all. Having healthcare through your employer is a form of slavery too.