Iowa city council debates proper time in meeting agenda to “undo the curse that was just put on our city.”

An Iowa man has kicked off controversy over religious freedom in the small town of Ottumwa, Iowa by opening a city council meeting with a prayer to Satan, which then kicked off a debate about the proper time in the meeting agenda to undo the “curse.”

  • Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Now, I’m no religion expert, but isn’t Satan the first cast out angel of heaven, doomed to rule over hell for all eternity? Doesn’t sound “henchman” to me. Sounds more like the guy who can’t leave his job getting all the clients the other guy doesn’t want to manage.

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      3 days ago

      Not trying to be snide when I say: read the Book of Job. In it, God and Satan are work colleagues discussing what to do with Job.

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      The original Bible doesn’t mention any kind of Satan.

      It’s an adaptation from the later Quran terminology shaytaan or al-Shaytan, which means demon, devil, evil spirit, anything that is against God.

      In the Quran the first shaytaan is also said to be Iblis, the first fallen angel (equivalent of Lucifer, as the origin story matches up quite closely).

      Later Bible translations adopted this terminology as the name Satan, but in reality it’s more of a title as above explained - it can be applied to any hell-dweller who’s gone against God.

      Then of course this morphed into many meanings… so there’s multiple ways to interpret it:

      • as Lucifer’s title for his rebellion
      • as a distinct prince of hell in demonology
      • as a general term for any evildoer who’s specifically against god

      all in all, it’s basically the worst religious insult one can use.

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        3 days ago

        the worst religious insult one can use.

        Christ’s cum-dumpster, that’s the worst they’ve got?

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          I mean, being named the ultimate enemy that must be vanquished at any cost IS pretty much up there with the worst possible insults.

          It’s not worst in the sense of being the most vulgar, most outrageous statement. It’s the worst in the sense of it being the highest insult of one.

          I mean imagine if I stated that in the name of all Europeans, YOU are public enemy number one. That you’ve done egregious acts against all Europeans that must not be tolerated, that must be avenged at all cost. That from now on, all Europeans have the right to exterminate you.

          It is a pretty high insult, isn’t it?

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      4 days ago

      More akin to the guy who thought he could do the job better then his boss quit in a huff and opened his own business. Then proceed to just get bought out by his old boss and now is fucked twice.

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        4 days ago

        And at the last, the boss planned it all happening because he’s a sadist who wants to fuck every thing over.