• DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Don’t do the zionist work for them by limiting your criticism to just the rational people who should have stopped this.

    WW2 was started by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, not Neville Chamberlain.

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        That’s all fine and good, but singling out liberals this way rhetorically absolves the actual fascists

        Chamberlain was absolutely to blame for his weak actions , and the German libs were accountable for theirs, but so were the Nazis.

        Purity testing and leftist infighting is the geo-political equivalent of blaming a girl’s outfit for her rape, instead of the rapists. It’s like going to a man who was stabbed and mocking his cowardly friend instead of providing first aid or chasing off his attacker.

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          Criticism of the US Democratic party has absolutely nothing to do with leftist infighting. The mere implication is a favor to those looking to move the overton window as far to the right as possible.

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          We donʻt end up in a position where fascists are able to come to power without liberals paving the runway. And its what’s happening. Trump doesnʻt come to power if not for the liberal tendencies of Obama. Their failure to hold the banks accountable. Their refusal to bailout homeowners instead. Trump doesnʻt come to power when the preferred candidate of the people isnʻt being sabotaged by the anti-democratic tendencies of the Democratic party. Trump gets a mulligan in 2024 because the Democrats held yet another coronation and yet again ran to the right of their voters when their voters had made it clear as day that they wouldnʻt be voting for a pro-genocide candidate.

          You are doing the thing liberals do to absolve themselves of accountability. And its a precise component of the song and dance that liberals use to simultaneously empower fascists but also absolve themselves of sin. Trump doesnʻt come to power at all in a context where Democrats take the task of delivering for their constituents seriously. Trump doesnʻt exist if not for the perpetual failure and the permanently apologetic state of the American Liberal.

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      9 days ago

      You think the Democratic establishment are rational? They’re less likely to foam at the mouth, but they’re about as amoral and sociopathic in pursuit of their goals as their opponents.

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        My preference is to treat everyone as people, and hold them responsible for their own actions or inactions instead of shifting the blame to somebody else.

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          So like an opposition party that refuses to oppose and when given the chance to meaningfully change course largely just… doesn’t? That sort of accountability?

          Republicans are bastards, who knew. Democrats, also largely self-serving bastards who people desperately want to be better because they know the Republicans are incapable.

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      9 days ago

      WW2 was started by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, not Neville Chamberlain.

      WW2 was started by Tojo and the Imperial Japanese, with the invasion of Manchuria in 1931.

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      9 days ago

      That’s a mighty inconvenient thing to point out to someone who’d rather the GOP wins, bucko.