A couple of 20-year-old developers make $500,000 a month promising to help men to stop watching porn, but exposed their private porn watching habits.
A couple of 20-year-old developers make $500,000 a month promising to help men to stop watching porn, but exposed their private porn watching habits.
What would you like it to be called then when someone spends 4+ hours a day, 5+ days a week masturbating to porn, feels terrible about it, tries to quit, and then immediately caves and falls right back into the same cycle?
How do you think a person like that feels when they’re hit with all these accusations the second they open up about wanting their normal life back? Reading these comments honestly makes me sick. Just fucking imagine the backlash if almost any other mental-health issue affecting tens of millions of people got ridiculed here the way porn addiction does.
I’m sure you can find recovering alcoholics who equally advocate for alcohol prohibition, but you’d have to be out of your damn mind to jump on someone the moment they mention cutting back on drinking and start accusing them of being a puritan or whatever. Yet somehow that passes for sound logic when it’s about someone trying to quit porn.
Prior to Christian fundamentalists influencing the academic world in the last couple decades, there used to be a distinction between “addiction” and things like “compulsory behaviors” or “habits”.
Alcohol has physiological withdrawal symptoms.
Calling this out is not to undermine those who have real behavioral issues, but to highlight the malicious influence of these very real and VERY well-funded groups. This isn’t some conspiracy theory- there are plenty of documents from government agencies about how sexual restriction and shame is used to control people. The Islamic State pretty famously used this in their recruiting and training programs to radicalize people.
The fault lies not with porn, but with societal repression of sexuality. There will always be people who have behavioral issues- most of which are not sexually related. And any well-functioning society should have the resources available to help those people.
Here’s a person “addicted” to eating drywall. Should we pass laws mandating age verification for purchasing construction materials now? Should we make a bunch of apps with sketchy security to help people track their drywall eating habits?
Nobody here is advocating for banning porn or even restricting anyone’s access to it. I’ve never met a single person struggling with what I call porn addiction - whether it clinically qualifies as addiction or not - who wants to restrict other people’s access to it.
There doesn’t need to be any ideology attached to one’s personal desire to quit or cut back on their porn consumption.
That is always where the argument goes. That is what the Christian Fundamentalists that u/ZILtoid1991 was referring to are calling for. It starts with claiming that this is some huge problem plaguing whatever country they are in, and inevitably leads down the road of invading privacy and authoritarian control.
Are you seriously not able to acknowledge that some people simply want to fix their own lives and don’t care what others do with theirs? Does everyone talking about their porn addiction have a secret agenda? Is that really what you think?
That’s an entirely different thing, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersexuality
Also see my other comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/22596497
Your justifications for these views fall quite deep into the conspiracy land.
Wanting to quit / cut back on porn is not synonymous with being anti-porn and “hypersexuality” is not an official medical diagnosis neither.